10,000 person caravan heading for the U.S. from central america

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by zamler

Then they can go through the refugee application process, right?

What exactly do you think this group is attempting to do? They're planning to arrive at the border and claim refugee status. Literally the only place one can apply for asylum is at a port of entry.

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/r...d-applications

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Thor

What your missing here is these are people seeking asylum as refugees, that is separate from immigration.

I am not. What you are missing here is that refugee status has a very special and direct application - imminent and real threat of death or political persecution in your own country. The process of claiming refugee status had become a complete joke over the past couple if decades. I recall a girlfriend of a known gangster given a refugee status, because she had cheated on him and was afraid to go back. Most of the Haitians crossing the border from US to Canada illegally have no fear of being killed in US, yet we give them the refugee status. These 10,000 people want a better life in US, that’s completely understandable. But it doesn’t mean their forceful way of getting into US automatically trumps the legal way of those who is waiting.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

personally, I feel like Canada has don a lot for refugees, in terms of accepting them here and hooking them up with social assistance

Canada has the luxury of being geographically isolated from everywhere except the USA. We get to pick and choose who we let in and haven't been forced to deal with the extreme unfiltered numbers that the USA and EU have.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

I am not. What you are missing here is that refugee status has a very special and direct application - imminent and real threat of death or political persecution in your own country. The process of claiming refugee status had become a complete joke over the past couple if decades. I recall a girlfriend of a known gangster given a refugee status, because she had cheated on him and was afraid to go back. Most of the Haitians crossing the border from US to Canada illegally have no fear of being killed in US, yet we give them the refugee status. These 10,000 people want a better life in US, that’s completely understandable. But it doesn’t mean their forceful way of getting into US automatically trumps the legal way of those who is waiting.

Clearly you don’t understand the difference between immigration and seeking asylum. There is no queue or line to jump for asylum seekers as you must present yourself at a port of entry to claim asylum status. This isn’t even difficult to understand, yet here we are, having to explain the very difference between the two statuses because you clearly can’t or won’t differentiate between them.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

What exactly do you think this group is attempting to do? They're planning to arrive at the border and claim refugee status.

They already arrived at the border, that border was with Mexico. If they were asylum seekers, they should have claimed it with the Government of Mexico.

[Thor]

Earlier this year Trump and Fox freaked out about a few thousand strong Caravan, it ended up being a few hundred people at the border.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by accord1999

They already arrived at the border, that border was with Mexico. If they were asylum seekers, they should have claimed it with the Government of Mexico.

Is Mexico party to the first safe country agreement?

[jayswin]

Nope!

[OMG!WTF!]

Mexico is offering refugee status along with aid and schooling and jobs. But I think the group is being told that they would eventually be rejected and sent back. They're holding a meeting about it tonight in a soccer stadium near Oaxaca.