10-01-2018, 11:21 AM
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#21
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Plus with Lazar waived they can send him down without risk and recall Mangiapane at any time in the next 30 days (think it's 30 days)
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10-01-2018, 11:23 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Yeah, it makes sense to send Mangiapane down and make him the first call-up when inevitable injuries happen. Lazar would be best served going down to see if he can find something in his game at the AHL level, but it looks like they're content having being the 13th forward.
On D, if they carry 7, I wonder if Valimaki has the upper hand being paired with Stone as LD. Maybe Andersson swaps in on RD every once in a while?
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10-01-2018, 11:24 AM
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#25
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
now
#Flames today:
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Dube-Ryan-Neal
Bennett-Jankowski-Czarnik
Lazar-Hathaway
Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Valimaki-Stone
Andersson-Prout
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10-01-2018, 11:25 AM
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#26
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
I doubt any NHL coaches or managers would agree with that. Mangiapane clearly would benefit more from playing top line in the AHL vs sitting in the press box here. Silly suggestion
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I don't think it's that silly of a suggestion. 13th or 14th forwards don't sit for 82 games. I imagine some teams like the internal competition and ability for players to practice the system with the big club. Just rotate through the bottom of your order with each playing around 60 games. If one is really playing lights out, then you can re-evaluate and send someone down if they start sitting.
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10-01-2018, 11:26 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
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The Flames have a lot of balance in their roaster. That Dube-Ryan-Neal line is going to be sneaky good.
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10-01-2018, 11:26 AM
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#28
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
...Assuming their absence from practice means they have been demoted. The list becomes.
Andersson
Valimaki
Dube
Lazar
One of those 4 needs to be cut for the Flames to have a 23 man roster. (Barring a trade of some sort)
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I think that last line in brackets is key. I don't necessarily think that the Flames are evaluating these players right down to the last practice. I think BT is working the phones last minute and seeing if he can't unload a guy for some picks. Young guys in both D and F impressed more than expected this camp, and instead of being disappointed like last season and needing a last-minute addition in Jagr, he probably has been pleasantly surprised and is looking for ways to make space.
Ultimately, if no trade materializes, Valimaki seems like the logical selection, especially with the current 8 D still on the team.
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10-01-2018, 11:27 AM
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#29
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Based on lines and assuming those missing from practice are demoted, it looks like Andersson is the final cut.
edit: barring trade.
of course they could do Lazar too.
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10-01-2018, 11:27 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
now
#Flames today:
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Dube-Ryan-Neal
Bennett-Jankowski-Czarnik
Lazar-Hathaway
Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Valimaki-Stone
Andersson-Prout
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I assume Lazar &/or Andersson will be the final cuts.
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10-01-2018, 11:27 AM
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#31
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
#Flames PP units today:
Tkachuk
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Giordano
Neal
Backlund-Ryan-Czarnik
Brodie
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10-01-2018, 11:28 AM
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#32
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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I still like Frolik better with Bennett and Jankowski
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10-01-2018, 11:28 AM
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#33
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
I assume Lazar &/or Andersson will be the final cuts.
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To confirm, Hathaway and Prout can't be the final cut as they would have needed to be on waivers?
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10-01-2018, 11:28 AM
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#34
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First Line Centre
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^Sorry, posted that last comment before seeing the lineup. I suppose now Andersson might be the odd one out
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10-01-2018, 11:30 AM
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#35
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burnitdown
To confirm, Hathaway and Prout can't be the final cut as they would have needed to be on waivers?
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Yes. They would have need to been put on waivers today for tomorrow's deadline.
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10-01-2018, 11:31 AM
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#36
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Oh, I didn't know you have the inside track on what all NHL coaches or managers think.
If you didn't end with the "silly suggestion" comment, I would respect you and your post a lot more. That being said, you are obviously right, no one should ever sway away from conventions! What has happened for hundreds of years should continue... Do you also not believe in women's suffrage?
I am not suggesting what I am saying will definitely work. However, unless you can provide a study on why the status quo is the best alternative, then no, you have no credentials to call my suggestion silly bud. You see new methods always being tried in sports.
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So this "new method" is to suggest that not playing regularly is better for development of a very young player, than playing every game on Stocktons schedule?
That's absurd and you dont need case studies to know that.
Practicing against Brodie and Gio and whoever else is fine and all, but nothing replaces learning...like doing.
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10-01-2018, 11:31 AM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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One thing that I really wanted to see was Neal and Frolik swapped. Frolik is a great, calming influence, but is on a line that does not need what he brings. I think that Neal would be a good role model for Tkachuk and bring the "International Backlund" into the mix.
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10-01-2018, 11:31 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
I still like Frolik better with Bennett and Jankowski
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Also, it sure looked like Tkachuk and Czarnik had some decent chemistry at times during this preseason.
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10-01-2018, 11:33 AM
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#39
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Lime
One thing that I really wanted to see was Neal and Frolik swapped. Frolik is a great, calming influence, but is on a line that does not need what he brings. I think that Neal would be a good role model for Tkachuk and bring the "International Backlund" into the mix.
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And oddly enough we never saw that in the preseason.
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10-01-2018, 11:34 AM
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#40
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burnitdown
I don't think it's that silly of a suggestion. 13th or 14th forwards don't sit for 82 games. I imagine some teams like the internal competition and ability for players to practice the system with the big club. Just rotate through the bottom of your order with each playing around 60 games. If one is really playing lights out, then you can re-evaluate and send someone down if they start sitting.
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The problem though, at least in this case, is that Mangiapane is a top 2 line F. Who does he displace to the press box when he comes into a game?
Unless you believe he would learn better playing 4th line minutes...which i think most would agree isnt exactly playing to his strengths.
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