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Old 06-05-2018, 12:51 PM   #21
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Wait... are you suggesting that he has summoned the rabid anti-teacher poster or the rabid pro-union poster?

Probably both.
I hadn't considered the the option, I was only looking at the union angle but ya...this could be the twofer summoning.
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Old 06-05-2018, 01:04 PM   #22
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The savage teachers were always my favorites. It sucks when they target you, but they spend 95% of the time watching them go after someone else. I had a teacher who called out a kid in front of the whole class for getting 20% on a multiple choice test, telling him a blind monkey would have done better. These are the moments that have etched themselves into my heart.
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The savage teachers were always my favorites. It sucks when they target you, but they spend 95% of the time watching them go after someone else. I had a teacher who called out a kid in front of the whole class for getting 20% on a multiple choice test, telling him a blind monkey would have done better. These are the moments that have etched themselves into my heart.
HA! Bullying a child who is struggling in school! Classic!
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I was kind of wondering if she could be charged with sexual assault...I'm sure they'd be looking hard at a male teacher saying stuff like that.



But man, these rate my teacher comments are hilarious....


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Old 06-05-2018, 01:30 PM   #25
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HA! Bullying a child who is struggling in school! Classic!

e: If you're going to be dumb, ya gotta be tough.


ee: wow, the bleating hearts are really coming out in force over a lazy, belligerent kid.

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Old 06-05-2018, 01:31 PM   #26
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Being lazy or incompetent at your job while remaining employed is one of the perks of being in a union.
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You have just done the equivalent of mentioning Springs1 in a tipping thread....prepare for it.
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EE’s post isn’t really worth responding to, he’s made it pretty clear by what he wrote that he’s misinformed and I’d like to assume most people who would read his post are sensible enough to realize that without having it spelled out for them so there’s no real reason to respond.

Now that that’s cleared up I guess you can go back to making jokes in a thread about child abuse.
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Old 06-05-2018, 01:49 PM   #27
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EE’s post isn’t really worth responding to, he’s made it pretty clear by what he wrote that he’s misinformed and I’d like to assume most people who would read his post are sensible enough to realize that without having it spelled out for them so there’s no real reason to respond.

Now that that’s cleared up I guess you can go back to making jokes in a thread about child abuse.
Anecdotally I can't say EE is totally out to lunch based on my own dealings with union workers. Seniority > Meritocracy certainly breeds this.
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iggy_oi's post isn't really worth responding to. He's made it pretty clear he's brainwashed by unions and is misinformed. My wife is a member of the Alberta Teacher's Association. The fact that we personally benefit from it doesn't cloud our eyes to how much it costs taxpayers and how many teachers take advantage of the system.
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I honestly didn't want to start another union vs anti-union debate, they're become really tiring. I also didn't know where to put this story, is it funny and cool? no? Is it something that makes me happy? no, Where does it go without making myself seem like an amazingly proficient ###### bag.


At the end of the day, I did laugh when I read the story, but I'm not worried about going to hell because of that. But at the same time, maybe this is a lady that's in a job that she shouldn't be in.
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People hold teachers to a standard of behaviour that just isn't realistic in a job that employs 10s of thousands throughout the country. If this were a supervisor at Leon's or a hedge fund manager, no one would blink at this kind of BS behaviour.

But because people are ultra sensitive to what their kids are exposed to, this type of story creates a moral unease and therefore, news? I guess...

The thing is, if we treat kids as if though they are resilient, the many duds of teachers they will encounter in their Scholastic careers will become positives in their lives by learning how to work with/for various qualities of people. It can also teach self-sufficiency and intrinsic reward.

If we treat kids like they can be felled by an outlandish personality standing in front of the class with an arts degree and no motivation, then that might just happen.

As a union teacher who is happy to be a part of a union, I've never understood the stance on firing teachers. I get that it's difficult to evaluate, but it seems to me, after multiple warnings, everyone should be happy to see this type of teacher fired. I've only worked with a couple that have probably deserved it, and I believe that after the initial shock, it would be beneficial to their lives as well. Can you have a strong union that is pro-firing demonstrably bad teachers? I'm on board.
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People hold teachers to a standard of behaviour that just isn't realistic in a job that employs 10s of thousands throughout the country. If this were a supervisor at Leon's or a hedge fund manager, no one would blink at this kind of BS behaviour.

But because people are ultra sensitive to what their kids are exposed to, this type of story creates a moral unease and therefore, news? I guess...
This person is paid to educate children... not doing someone’s books behind a desk.
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This is hilarious.
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People hold teachers to a standard of behaviour that just isn't realistic in a job that employs 10s of thousands throughout the country. If this were a supervisor at Leon's or a hedge fund manager, no one would blink at this kind of BS behaviour.

But because people are ultra sensitive to what their kids are exposed to, this type of story creates a moral unease and therefore, news? I guess...

The thing is, if we treat kids as if though they are resilient, the many duds of teachers they will encounter in their Scholastic careers will become positives in their lives by learning how to work with/for various qualities of people. It can also teach self-sufficiency and intrinsic reward.

If we treat kids like they can be felled by an outlandish personality standing in front of the class with an arts degree and no motivation, then that might just happen.

As a union teacher who is happy to be a part of a union, I've never understood the stance on firing teachers. I get that it's difficult to evaluate, but it seems to me, after multiple warnings, everyone should be happy to see this type of teacher fired. I've only worked with a couple that have probably deserved it, and I believe that after the initial shock, it would be beneficial to their lives as well. Can you have a strong union that is pro-firing demonstrably bad teachers? I'm on board.
I disagree with your statement here, a teacher is the front face of education and in my mind has to be very professional in terms of how they deal with their students.

We talk about blaming parents for children failings, but to me you almost have to hold teachers to the same kind of standard. They have just as high of a level of influence on kids as parents do.

I think professionally you absolutely have to have the avenues to fire a teacher if they fail in their primary job. Some people that are teachers are in the wrong vocation, and you should absolutely have the rights to reasonably remove a person from that profession.
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It's not like she gave some kid a zero.
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I disagree with your statement here, a teacher is the front face of education and in my mind has to be very professional in terms of how they deal with their students.

We talk about blaming parents for children failings, but to me you almost have to hold teachers to the same kind of standard. They have just as high of a level of influence on kids as parents do.

I think professionally you absolutely have to have the avenues to fire a teacher if they fail in their primary job. Some people that are teachers are in the wrong vocation, and you should absolutely have the rights to reasonably remove a person from that profession.
Well, you certainly don't disagree with my whole statement...

Absolutely, teachers need to be held to a high standard of decorum, but it shouldn't come as a massive shock when it doesn't happen. IMO, not really news.

Yes, they should be fired if they tactlessly and repeatedly tell kids to kiss their ass, but kids dealing with a range of teaching personality and running into the odd dud isn't going to damage them.

It's a pretty funny job really. Some teachers thrive on being funny. Some think they do... You can have 2 different teachers acting in the same tone and saying similar things, one will catch a ton of **** while the other may skate.
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Most older teachers would agree that teaching is much more difficult today than in the past. Kids have much shorter attention spans, worse behavior because of soft parenting, and it seems parents have higher expectations and tend to blame teachers for their kids not being good students. Today is just as much about managing behaviors as it is teaching the class because there are fewer consequences for children and less parental support. That said a teacher absolutely should be held to a higher standard than an office manager as they are playing a considerable role in the development of children.

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As a journalist, I imagine being able to write this headline only comes along once in a career.

"Ontario teacher's licence suspended for two months after telling student to 'lick me where I fart'"

I hope they are savoring it.
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Most older teachers would agree that teaching is much more difficult today than in the past. Kids have much shorter attention spans, worse behavior because of soft parenting, and it seems parents have higher expectations and tend to blame teachers for their kids not being good students. Today is just as much about managing behaviors as it is teaching the class because there are fewer consequences for children and less parental support. That said a teacher absolutely should be held to a higher standard than an office manager as they are playing a considerable role in the development of children.
I'm sure it's harder in some ways, easier in others. The amount of violence, bullying, and out-of-control rowdiness on a typical playground in the 70s and early 80s would give a teacher today PTSD. I don't think a day went by when I was grade 5 or 6 when kids weren't dogpiled, face-washed, or in fights.

This movie isn't all that far off my memories of growing up in that era:



Looking at how my kids and their friends behave, they're far more considerate, compassionate, and supportive of one another. Boys plays with girls (virtually unheard of when I their age), fighting is rare, and older kids treat younger kids well, rather than bully or ignore them.
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