Buying a used RV

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by ken0042

That concerns me.

Why? Isn't the towing capacity of a 1500 something like 12,500 lbs?
I've towed a boat and gear with mine no problem, and that would have been pushing 3500 pounds.

Agreed about the hitch though.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

Why? Isn't the towing capacity of a 1500 something like 12,500 lbs?
I've towed a boat and gear with mine no problem, and that would have been pushing 3500 pounds.

Depends on the model. A quick google shows 7,900-12,000.

[ken0042]

Hmmm, for some reason I was thinking it was closer to 6000 pounds. My concern was a 4600 pound dry trailer actually being closer to 5500 with everything in it; and how close to 6000 that would be.

[Canehdianman]

Originally Posted by ken0042

That concerns me. What is the towing capacity of your truck? Has the seller actually weighed the trailer? Dry weight from the factory and actual weight can be very different. At the very least, have a weight distribution hitch.

hahaha, I was about to make a joke about someone coming along questioning whether a 1/2 ton pickup truck could tow this.

perfect.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Hmmm, for some reason I was thinking it was closer to 6000 pounds. My concern was a 4600 pound dry trailer actually being closer to 5500 with everything in it; and how close to 6000 that would be.

Maybe thinking of older models:
http://assets.cobaltnitra.com/teams/...146edef087.pdf

The 2012 starts at 4400lbs.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Hmmm, for some reason I was thinking it was closer to 6000 pounds.

Fair. I have the towing package on my 2012 which IIRC is close to 10,000.
I didn't realize the other axel ratios took it down to 6000.

[flamesfan1297]

Originally Posted by ken0042

That concerns me. What is the towing capacity of your truck? Has the seller actually weighed the trailer? Dry weight from the factory and actual weight can be very different. At the very least, have a weight distribution hitch.

Towing capacity is about 10,000lbs, and that's on the low side. Yeah I have a weight distribution hitch

[calgarygringo]

Dont forget to check what you have left for weight on your truck and not worry about tow capacity. 6000 lb trailer is probably going to dd 700 to 1000 lbs to the truck gross weight. Add that, you and your passengers the dog and any other stuff in the back of the truck you will be carrying and add to the weight of the truck and see if you are within limits. You may or may not be on a half ton. The tow the space shuttle story means nothing if you are overweight and you get pulled over and told to unhitch or leave your wife and kids on the side of the road to lighten up.

[Canehdianman]

Originally Posted by calgarygringo

Dont forget to check what you have left for weight on your truck and not worry about tow capacity. 6000 lb trailer is probably going to dd 700 to 1000 lbs to the truck gross weight. Add that, you and your passengers the dog and any other stuff in the back of the truck you will be carrying and add to the weight of the truck and see if you are within limits. You may or may not be on a half ton. The tow the space shuttle story means nothing if you are overweight and you get pulled over and told to unhitch or leave your wife and kids on the side of the road to lighten up.

this is a way better one.

[calgarygringo]

This happens often and most are never told especially in half tons that can pull 10k. Tundras are really bad for that as example. Great engine and can tow 10k but will run out of payload capacity towing a trailer long before 10k lbs.

Originally Posted by Canehdianman

this is a way better one.

[Derek Sutton]

95% of 2017 GMC Sierras have a towing capacity starting at 9100lb's and a payload staring at nearly 1800 lbs. Use 12% as a payload weight, giving you 720lb's on a 6000lb trailer, you have room for an additional 1000 lbs of cargo for the truck. The payloads and towing capacities go up from here depending on engine, transmission and gear ratio. There should be a sticker, usually inside the fuse panel declaring the wieght of the trailer as well as the GVW of the trailer. One would be amazed at the number of over capacity truck/ trailer units on the road every week end.

Kustom Koach, I believe, is the last of the Canadian made trailers and are far better quality then a lot of them that are out there. There will certainly be something wrong with it somewhere and certain things that need replacing given the year but that is part of the joy of trailer ownership.

Check out the
-Awning, open it up, holes/ rips tears/ mould
-Tires, RV tires are real POS
-The Jacks functional, included or not??
-fridge, could take an hour or two to cool down, as him to have it up a running when you get there, try all three modes, furnace to.
-Look for any water damage, leaking and check the floor for rotting of the wood. Just about any trailer that age that has had leaking, will have wood rotting somewhere.
-Hail Damage

Your trailer is insured by your truck while you are towing and you can put it under your house insurance (depending on policy)if you store it at your home for very little cost. Your house insurance will not cover it at a the campsite or at a seasonal lot.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by calgarygringo

This happens often and most are never told especially in half tons that can pull 10k. Tundras are really bad for that as example. Great engine and can tow 10k but will run out of payload capacity towing a trailer long before 10k lbs.

The Ram 1500 Longhorn in another one payload of of 1052lb's, would not (legally)be able to take 4 adult males golfing.

[calgarygringo]

All true and those capacities can also drop a bunch depending on options on the truck too. I tow around 7000 and started with a half ton and went to a 2500 and huge difference and hardly know its back there compated to the half.
I have also seen people pulled over at portable scales and people have had to call someone to tow the trailer or remove stuff to make the weights. Most are shocked to find out how much stuff we carry and we all say not much.

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

95% of 2017 GMC Sierras have a towing capacity starting at 9100lb's and a payload staring at nearly 1800 lbs. Use 12% as a payload weight, giving you 720lb's on a 6000lb trailer, you have room for an additional 1000 lbs of cargo for the truck. The payloads and towing capacities go up from here depending on engine, transmission and gear ratio. There should be a sticker, usually inside the fuse panel declaring the wieght of the trailer as well as the GVW of the trailer. One would be amazed at the number of over capacity truck/ trailer units on the road every week end.

Kustom Koach, I believe, is the last of the Canadian made trailers and are far better quality then a lot of them that are out there. There will certainly be something wrong with it somewhere and certain things that need replacing given the year but that is part of the joy of trailer ownership.

Check out the
-Awning, open it up, holes/ rips tears/ mould
-Tires, RV tires are real POS
-The Jacks functional, included or not??
-fridge, could take an hour or two to cool down, as him to have it up a running when you get there, try all three modes, furnace to.
-Look for any water damage, leaking and check the floor for rotting of the wood. Just about any trailer that age that has had leaking, will have wood rotting somewhere.
-Hail Damage

Your trailer is insured by your truck while you are towing and you can put it under your house insurance (depending on policy)if you store it at your home for very little cost. Your house insurance will not cover it at a the campsite or at a seasonal lot.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Canehdianman

this is a way better one.

CP is crazy by-the-book when it comes to towing.

I always just give'r with whatever. I've rented a big trailer for May Long. If it gets squirrelly I'll just let off until it hooks up again, then back on the gas.

[gasman]

Originally Posted by ken0042

That concerns me. What is the towing capacity of your truck? Has the seller actually weighed the trailer? Dry weight from the factory and actual weight can be very different. At the very least, have a weight distribution hitch.

That's a pretty light trailer you will be fine with a half ton, you will need a WD hitch, it may be included in the trailer you should negotiate it.

I comfortably towed a 7000# trailer with an F150 and was well within every towing spec. You will run out of payload before you run out of towing capacity.

[calgarygringo]

My whole point earlier was running out of payload not towing weight. Probably OK on the newer Chevs and Fords but may be close or short on some other half tons.

Originally Posted by gasman

That's a pretty light trailer you will be fine with a half ton, you will need a WD hitch, it may be included in the trailer you should negotiate it.

I comfortably towed a 7000# trailer with an F150 and was well within every towing spec. You will run out of payload before you run out of towing capacity.

[gasman]

Originally Posted by calgarygringo

My whole point earlier was running out of payload not towing weight. Probably OK on the newer Chevs and Fords but may be close or short on some other half tons.

I actually didn't see your post, but you and I are on the same page. Funny it looks like we have similar towing experience. I upgraded my trailer last year and the new one weighed over 8000# I was legal at the weigh station in my F150 (HD payload package + max tow) but it would push me around going gdown hills. I went to a 3/4ton diesel and don't even know it's back there.

[calgarygringo]

Some of the tow weights and payloads on these new half tons are scary. New halfs have way more capacity than old 3/4 or almost 1 tons. Talking to guys that tow with them say they are OK but downhill, wind etc. it still feels like a half ton. After doing the the 3/4 ton switch I will give up a mile or 2 a gallon for the better towing thank you.
Don't have to worry about some Sheriff or RCMP pulling me over and telling me I am overweight then have to leave half my stuff on the side of the road and get a ticket and wreck a vacation or trip.

Originally Posted by gasman

I actually didn't see your post, but you and I are on the same page. Funny it looks like we have similar towing experience. I upgraded my trailer last year and the new one weighed over 8000# I was legal at the weigh station in my F150 (HD payload package + max tow) but it would push me around going gdown hills. I went to a 3/4ton diesel and don't even know it's back there.

[flamesfan1297]

Well, I bought it. Looked like a great trailer and the guy was very thorough and went through everything with me. All worked.

I also got him to include the hitch in the deal, my truck pulled it with no problems.

Thanks for all the advice here guys, it's what makes CP so great

[Locke]

Originally Posted by flamesfan1297

Well, I bought it. Looked like a great trailer and the guy was very thorough and went through everything with me. All worked.

I also got him to include the hitch in the deal, my truck pulled it with no problems.

Thanks for all the advice here guys, it's what makes CP so great

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