03-20-2018, 08:01 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Surprised to see some have Ferland & Bennett as 'keep'. The Flames only need one third line RW.
Trade Ferland as part of a package to get a legitimate 1st RW
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03-20-2018, 08:03 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
If Bennett still holds any shred of real value, move him for it.
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Rest assured. Sam has none whatsoever.
Tre needs to land a big name RW via free agency or this team is still going to be stuck in neutral next season. Injecting a JVR/Kane or even Neal would do wonders to re-adjusting the teams depth on that side. Putting Frolik and Ferland in lesser roles where they can over-perform is the key to this team improving imo.
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03-20-2018, 08:03 AM
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#23
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Not Beltline
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
Why do so many people want to trade Frolik? He's our only good RWer. He's on a good contract. He's a good player.
Complete misevaluation.
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I agree with this and I feel the same way about Bennett and Brodie.
Brodie has had bad years under GG, change the coach and hope he gets back to his old self.
Bennett is still young and on a good contract, selling low is bad asset management.
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03-20-2018, 08:05 AM
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Franchise Player
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I'm not so sure a #1 rw is the biggest hole to fill. Gaudreau and Monahan had career years with Ferland there. Injecting high quality offensive players beyond the top line is my biggest concern.
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03-20-2018, 08:06 AM
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Let the UFAs walk, buyout Brouwer and look at obtaining the following:
- 1L RW, 3L RW (sadly going to have to move a D+ for this)
- Vet backup (Rittich has been alright, but look what happened when Smith was out long term)
Last edited by Toonage; 03-20-2018 at 08:10 AM.
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03-20-2018, 08:11 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
I'm not so sure a #1 rw is the biggest hole to fill. Gaudreau and Monahan had career years with Ferland there. Injecting high quality offensive players beyond the top line is my biggest concern.
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That is the point...it all filters down.
Top line RW is #1 IMO
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03-20-2018, 08:16 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
That is the point...it all filters down.
Top line RW is #1 IMO
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See that means that pushing Ferland down solves the depth scoring issues. I simply don't think Ferland suddenly boosts the scoring on the 2nd or 3rd lines.
Top line scoring not the problem in my opinion. It's real scoring threats beyond the top line.
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03-20-2018, 08:18 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund - keep
46 Marek Hrivik - let walk
77 Mark Jankowski - re-sign
23 Sean Monahan - keep; untouchable
25 Nick Shore - re-sign
18 Matt Stajan - let walk
LEFT WINGS
93 Sam Bennett - keep
79 Micheal Ferland - trade (if upgrade)
13 Johnny Gaudreau - keep; untouchable
15 Tanner Glass - let walk
19 Matthew Tkachuk - keep; untouchable
RIGHT WINGS
36 Troy Brouwer - buyout / retain salary trade
67 Michael Frolik - indifferent
21 Garnet Hathaway - indifferent
20 Curtis Lazar - keep (4th line wing)
8 Chris Stewart - let walk
10 Kris Versteeg - let walk
DEFENSE
44 Matt Bartkowski - let walk
7 T.J. Brodie - Trade (if top 6 forward return)
5 Mark Giordano - keep
27 Dougie Hamilton - keep; untouchable
24 Travis Hamonic - keep
61 Brett Kulak - keep
26 Michael Stone - trade
GOALIES
33 David Rittich - keep
41 Mike Smith - keep
Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - fire
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - fire
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - fire
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - indifferent
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - fire
GM: Brad Treliving - keep
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 03-20-2018 at 08:34 AM.
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03-20-2018, 08:20 AM
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First Line Centre
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I think no matter who you put with Johnny and Mony, they will score close to 20 goals. Ferland isn't a first line player
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03-20-2018, 08:23 AM
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#32
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I believe in the Jays.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanCharles
Given the disappointment surrounding this years version of the Calgary Flames all one can do now is look forward to next season and the offseason moves that will undoubtably result from this years failures.
The name of the game is self explanatory. I'm wondering what everyone thinks, here is mine:
For ease I left out the video coach and various management roles.
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CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund - keep
46 Marek Hrivik - let walk
77 Mark Jankowski - re-sign
23 Sean Monahan - keep
25 Nick Shore - re-sign
18 Matt Stajan - let walk
LEFT WINGS
93 Sam Bennett - keep
79 Micheal Ferland - keep
13 Johnny Gaudreau - keep
15 Tanner Glass - let walk
19 Matthew Tkachuk - keep
RIGHT WINGS
36 Troy Brouwer - Get Rid Of
67 Michael Frolik - Keep
21 Garnet Hathaway - indifferent
20 Curtis Lazar - indifferent
8 Chris Stewart - Let walk
10 Kris Versteeg - let walk
DEFENSE
44 Matt Bartkowski - let walk
7 T.J. Brodie - keep
5 Mark Giordano - keep
27 Dougie Hamilton - keep
24 Travis Hamonic - keep
61 Brett Kulak - keep
26 Michael Stone - Get Rid Of
GOALIES
33 David Rittich - keep
41 Mike Smith - keep
Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - fire
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - fire
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - fire
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - fire
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - fire
GM: Brad Treliving - indifferent
President of Hockey Operations: Brian Burke - indifferent
President: Ken King: fire
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03-20-2018, 08:39 AM
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#34
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#1 Goaltender
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Matthew Tkachuk is the only real untouchable on the Flames.
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03-20-2018, 08:41 AM
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#35
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Crash and Bang Winger
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CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund - keep
46 Marek Hrivik - let walk
77 Mark Jankowski - re-sign for the 3rd Line
23 Sean Monahan - keep
25 Nick Shore - re-sign for the 4th line
18 Matt Stajan - let walk
LEFT WINGS
93 Sam Bennett - keep
79 Micheal Ferland - keep for the 4th line
13 Johnny Gaudreau - keep; untouchable
15 Tanner Glass - let walk
19 Matthew Tkachuk - keep; untouchable
RIGHT WINGS
36 Troy Brouwer - buyout or trade
67 Michael Frolik - keep because we have no one else
21 Garnet Hathaway - indifferent - 4th line or popcorn
20 Curtis Lazar - indifferent - 4th line or popcorn
8 Chris Stewart - let walk
10 Kris Versteeg - let walk
DEFENSE
44 Matt Bartkowski - let walk
7 T.J. Brodie - trade
5 Mark Giordano - keep
27 Dougie Hamilton - keep; untouchable
24 Travis Hamonic - keep
61 Brett Kulak - keep
26 Michael Stone - trade
GOALIES
33 David Rittich - back to the AHL
41 Mike Smith - keep
Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - fire
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - fire
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - fire
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - fire
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - fire
GM: Brad Treliving - keep
Leaves you with:
Gaudreau - Monahan - ???
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Bennett - Jankowski - ???
Lazar - Shore - Ferland
Hathaway
Giordano - Hamilton
Valimaki - Hamonic
Kulak - Andersson
Wotherspoon/Fox
Smith
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Trade Brodie/Smith/prospect for a decent top line RW, pick up a 3rd line RW and veteran backup goalie via free agency. 
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03-20-2018, 08:42 AM
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#36
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Norm!
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CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund - keep
46 Marek Hrivik - let walk
77 Mark Jankowski - re-sign
23 Sean Monahan - keep, but listen to offers
25 Nick Shore - re-sign
18 Matt Stajan - offer front office job
LEFT WINGS
93 Sam Bennett - keep
79 Micheal Ferland - keep
13 Johnny Gaudreau - keep;
15 Tanner Glass - let walk
19 Matthew Tkachuk - keep; untouchable
RIGHT WINGS
36 Troy Brouwer - buyout
67 Michael Frolik - trade
21 Garnet Hathaway - dump
20 Curtis Lazar - dump
8 Chris Stewart - let walk
10 Kris Versteeg - let walk
DEFENSE
44 Matt Bartkowski - dump
7 T.J. Brodie - trade
5 Mark Giordano - trade
27 Dougie Hamilton - keep; untouchable
24 Travis Hamonic - keep
61 Brett Kulak - keep
26 Michael Stone - trade
GOALIES
33 David Rittich - trade
41 Mike Smith - keep
Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - fire
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - fire
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - fire
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - shuffle to somewhere else in the org
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - fire
GM: Brad Treliving - keep
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03-20-2018, 08:43 AM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 161 St. - Yankee Stadium
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CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund - keep
46 Marek Hrivik - walk
77 Mark Jankowski - re-sign
23 Sean Monahan - keep
25 Nick Shore - re-sign
18 Matt Stajan - walk
LEFT WINGS
93 Sam Bennett - trade - it's time before the value is zero
79 Micheal Ferland - trade
13 Johnny Gaudreau - keep
15 Tanner Glass - walk
19 Matthew Tkachuk - keep
RIGHT WINGS
36 Troy Brouwer - trade, if possible. No buyout
67 Michael Frolik - trade
21 Garnet Hathaway - see what you can get for him
20 Curtis Lazar - see what you can get for him
8 Chris Stewart - walk
10 Kris Versteeg - re-sign
DEFENSE
44 Matt Bartkowski - walk
7 T.J. Brodie - trade
5 Mark Giordano - keep
27 Dougie Hamilton - keep
24 Travis Hamonic - keep
61 Brett Kulak - keep
26 Michael Stone - keep
GOALIES
33 David Rittich - keep
41 Mike Smith - keep
Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - fire
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - fire
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - fire
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - fire
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - fire
GM: Brad Treliving - keep
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03-20-2018, 08:59 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Fire the entire coaching staff and hire a competent veteran head coach. Let him chose his assistants. Keep the core as is for the most part, shuffle some pieces to get us more scoring. Give them two years. If that doesn't work, burn it to the ground. Fire Treliving, fire Burke, fire the coaching staff and commence rebuild V2.0. For God's sake though, don't go picking at the scrap heap from failed organizations for our management/coaching staff.
We have the old Leafs GM as our President of Hockey Operations
The old coyotes Assistant GM as our GM
The old coyotes GM doing god know what
The old Canucks assistant coach as our head coach.
And we wonder why this team sucks
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03-20-2018, 09:08 AM
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#40
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lethbridge
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CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund - keep
46 Marek Hrivik - let walk
77 Mark Jankowski - re-sign
23 Sean Monahan - keep
25 Nick Shore - trade
18 Matt Stajan - let walk
I trade shore, as he's an RFA, and has proven to be a useful bottom 6 NHL'er, capable of 15ish points a season. but we've got Monahan, Backlund, Janko as our top 3 centers, with the likes of Dube, Phillips (doubt he plays C in the NHL with his size), and Shinkaruk who I'd rather see in a more offensive 4th line role, seeing as the 4th lines aren't plug lines anymore. Maybe we recoup that 7th round pick. If none of the kids can take the step next season, filling a 4th line C role isn't hard in Free Agency.
LEFT WINGS
93 Sam Bennett - keep
79 Micheal Ferland - keep
13 Johnny Gaudreau - keep
15 Tanner Glass - let walk
19 Matthew Tkachuk - keep
RIGHT WINGS
36 Troy Brouwer - trade/buyout
67 Michael Frolik - keep
21 Garnet Hathaway - keep
20 Curtis Lazar - keep
8 Chris Stewart - let walk
10 Kris Versteeg - keep
DEFENSE
44 Matt Bartkowski - let walk
7 T.J. Brodie - trade
5 Mark Giordano - keep
27 Dougie Hamilton - keep
24 Travis Hamonic - keep
61 Brett Kulak - keep
26 Michael Stone - trade
Kulak is due for a decent raise, so you have to move one of Brodie or Stone. I'd prefer to move Stone if the coaching staff changes, as Brodie can provide more when utilized properly. However, if you get a good offer for Brodie, you move him for a better return than Stone would fetch. Andersson is ready, Kylington should get a good hard look as well. If they need to sign a 6/7, can be done for cheap in Free Agency.
GOALIES
33 David Rittich - keep
41 Mike Smith - keep
Keep Rittich, but keep it a dog fight for the backup between him and Gillies
Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - fire
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - fire
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - fire
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - fire
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - fire
GM: Brad Treliving - keep
My 2018/19 lineup looks like this:
Gaudreau-Monahan-??
Tkachuk-Backlund-Bennett
Ferland-Janko-Frolik
Versteeg-Shinkaruk/Dube-Lazar/Foo/Phillips
Gio-Hamilton
Brodie-Andersson
Hamonic-kulak
Smith
Rittich/Gillies
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