Hindsight: Would you rather: Dougie, Martin Jones, or Barzal

[SuperMatt18]

I’d change nothing.

We pick Barzal or Trade the first for Jones and that means Hamilton is likely an Oiler.

Instead we get the perfect scenario.

We get Hamilton.

Oilers trade the pick that becomes Barzal for Reinhart (lol).

Jones is a good goalie but not elite for San Jose.

[neo45]

Dougie is awesome but if I am being objective I’ll take Barzal. Hindsight means we also hit home runs with the other picks we gave up, no?


Barzal is a game breaking talent. Watching him play, the guy ALWAYS puts the puck to the right place.


It’s still a home run trade for Treliving. Boston lost that trade in brutal fashion. Just not as bad as the Oilers lost their trade that day.

[btimbit]

I still take Doug.

Woulsnt need Barzal if Bennett actually turned into the guy we thought he would at the time

[codynw]

With hindsight? Maybe Barzal and the two seconds. This team could really use an elite right shooting center.. I'm still fine with how that trade worked out though.

[icecube]

Barzal by a mile. Dougie is great but Barzal is a superstar in the making.

[868904]

It's not just Barzal or Boeser, Flames also gave up two 2nds.

They probably could have traded those 2nds for a goalie, like Mike Smith.

So Flames could have had Barzal/Boeser and Mike Smith for the 1st and 2nds traded for Hamilton.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by icecube

Barzal by a mile. Dougie is great but Barzal is a superstar in the making.

He's on pace for almost 90 points and outscoring Tavares. He's already a superstar.

[Sylvanfan]

Yeah I think the theory of trading a bunch of picks for a young player about go get paid no longer works in the NHL. Sure Hamilton is a really good player. But I think this trade and the Hamonic trade did not propel the team forward in the long run as much as building thru the draft should have.

[1Nite]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I will take the 24 year old 6 foot 6 skates like a deer, right hand shooting top pairing puck moving defensemen and not lose sleep over it at all thanks.

Those parts don't come along that often and when you have a chance to get it, that's a major building block.

We've seen what a defense void of top guys can achieve, and that's absolutely nothing.

Fixed that for you. I would take Dougie, top defence men are hard to fiind, like Barzal, at the time Dougie filled a bigger need.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Dougie. There’s nothing that indicates we would have picked Barzal.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by 868904

It's not just Barzal or Boeser, Flames also gave up two 2nds.

They probably could have traded those 2nds for a goalie, like Mike Smith.

So Flames could have had Barzal/Boeser and Mike Smith for the 1st and 2nds traded for Hamilton.

I would have traded those two seconds for a ~25th-30th overall and drafted Brandon Carlo who I was high on that year. He turned out to be exactly what I saw as a prospect. Boeser/Carlo/Andersson/Kylington/Mangiapane would have been a hell of a draft.


Going back to that offseason, and fastforwarding to now,

My D would probably look like:
Giordano - Carlo
Kulak - Brodie
Del Zotto - Andersson
Nakladal

My F would probably look like:
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Bennett-Boeser
Byron-Backlund-Jankowski
Stajan-Dube-(Lazar?)

I dunno if I'd change anything about goaltending. I'm pretty satisfied with Smith-Rittich-Parsons and I think we're setup for now and the future.

[Yrebmi]

Hamilton is proven.
I'd like to see another season of Barzal.
Remember when Hertl was the next best, and while he's still good he's cooled considerably.

[Vinny01]

Dougie.

Trade was considered robbery at the time and nothing has changed that yet. Hamilton has been pretty much what we could have expected or hoped for

[Coach]

Dougie all day every day. Rare piece

[Poe969]

Barzal isn't a superstar, he's having an amazing season but that's all it is, one season. I still take Hamilton because D is more important to the team and he's the real deal. If you could guarantee that Barzal plays like this every year, it's a different story.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Yrebmi

Hamilton is proven.
I'd like to see another season of Barzal.
Remember when Hertl was the next best, and while he's still good he's cooled considerably.

Tomas Hertl is 24 and has one season where he's better than 0.5 PPG.

Barzal has more points than Tavares and almost as many as Johnny. As a centre, at age 20. On the ISLANDERS. He's a star.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Yeah I think the theory of trading a bunch of picks for a young player about go get paid no longer works in the NHL. Sure Hamilton is a really good player. But I think this trade and the Hamonic trade did not propel the team forward in the long run as much as building thru the draft should have.

I think you can only do so if you've stockpiled enough of an arsenal of prospects and are are clearly a cup contender.

Like Tampa and Nashville are two teams that can afford to throw around 1st and 2nd rounders this offseason or the next.

The flames doing so is a bit ridiculous.

[oldschoolcalgary]

day of the draft, i was hoping Barzal (due to injury) or Kyle Connor would be available for the Flames by the time they picked.

That said, hard to knock that deal... Hamilton can be a tremendous player... and no one really knew if Barzal would turn out the way he did.

i agree though, its not hamilton for Barzal... it was also 2nds too... add those two picks in and it think i'd take Barzal, based on what he's become today, and 2 seconds over Dougie... but its close

[djsFlames]

50 point top pairing d-man or an already PPG rookie center..

That's a tough one. Dougie probably gets a slight edge right now because he's more proven and top d-men with his qualities are probably harder to come across. Barzal has to continue to play at a high level to prove that he's a top end center in the league yet. Both are huge assets to have, though.

[Locke]

I take Dougie.

Goalies are hit and miss, but I think (if utilized properly ) that Hamilton is going to take over from Gio as our blueline anchor.

Those dont come along every day.