Tatar fits the Vegas team model. This is the right acquisition for them.
He plays the game quickly. They really have a plan in Vegas and seem to be sticking to it.
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VGK was deep into Erik Karlsson trade talks up to the final minutes before the deadline and when it became clear it wasn’t going to get done, VGK traded with DET for Tomas Tatar.
What would you say is a more appropriate value for a top 6 players in his prime with term remaining? We got Hamonic for a 1st, and 2x 2nds in the offseason when we knew we would be getting Hamonic for another 3 seasons.
Tatar is a consistent 20 goal, 45 point producer and is signed for another 3 seasons after this one. When you look at other big name wingers, say a Evander Kane who was traded for a 2nd and a 4th or a Rick Nash who brought a 1st, the added value of longer term is also something that needs to be properly assessed for.
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The Golden Knights had 17 picks in the first 3 rounds of the next four drafts, the Tatar trade reduces it to 14. That's still plenty.
Okay, but I don't see how spending them foolishly is any kind of good strategy
Draft picks are currency. VGK has tonnes of them, and certainly many more than they will be able spend effectively at the draft. Tatar is a solid top-six player in his mid-twenties, and cost controlled for the next three years. I see this as addressing a hole in VGK's system by making a very gradual withdrawal from the surplus of picks, which are staggered over four years.
In other words, I think Tatar is a valuable piece for them now and for the next few seasons—over which time they will not miss the few outgoing picks they will spend while still likely adding more players from each of the next several drafts than most other NHL teams.
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Seems like a steep price to me, but that’s the luxury of having picks to burn. Even now they still have such a surplus they could probably revisit Karlssson and Ryan in the offseason.
Isn't there the conventional wisdom that for every year in the future a pick is, that it knocks a round off the value? If so, the 2nd isn't quite so hard to swallow and the 3rd becomes barely noticeable. Also, the first should be near the bottom with how well Vegas has played. Seeing 3 picks can make the value look bad, but to me its pretty reasonable.
Isn't there the conventional wisdom that for every year in the future a pick is, that it knocks a round off the value? If so, the 2nd isn't quite so hard to swallow and the 3rd becomes barely noticeable. Also, the first should be near the bottom with how well Vegas has played. Seeing 3 picks can make the value look bad, but to me its pretty reasonable.
I just don't necessarily buy Vegas' season at this point even still. I think they need to hold on to firsts and not give them away for a guy like Tatar who can play, but his potential of being a real tantalizing difference maker has been exhausted as opposed to a 1st round pick that could be a huge piece of their questionable core going forward.
I think they're putting too much stock into this crazy season of theirs and not considering the next couple years where they could come down from the high and have a guy like Tatar, whom you wasted good assets on, riding passenger in those years.
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I agree with you that it's probably not going to continue next year, and they may turn into a pumpkin in the playoffs, where an elite player (of whom they have none) can take over a series. I suspect that's a major reason they were also in on Karlsson.
But on the other hand, they have a ton of picks, and if Tatar is the guy who helps them win a round, that, I think, is worth it in their first-year Cinderella story context. None of this makes sense, but if you can milk it just a bit more with a run (even a brief one), you've really established a fanbase that'll stick by you even if next year's a bit of a step backwards.
Then you consider that whatever magic beans Vegas is feeding its players turned William Karlsson - who the Jackets threw them as essentially a nothing - into a Rocket Richard contender. Maybe on Vegas, Tatar's a 60+ point guy. In which case, it's a fair price to pay.
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