[Trade] Sens trade Ian Cole to BJs for a 2020 3rd and Nick Moutrey

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

They chance of success of 1st round picks is improving every year. Look at the 2015 draft 2 years later. Out of the 30 player drafted there would be 20 that are better than Hamonic right now and the other 10 are not write offs.


You picked 2 of the 7-8 bad picks out of the 2013 1st round. Flames traded for one more out of that class.

A known quantity top 4 defenceman is a good result from the middle of the first round onward. Hamonic is, IMO, the Flames third best overall defenceman, and has played a good shutdown role since at least the quarter mark this year. He's very underrated on this forum.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

A known quantity top 4 defenceman is a good result from the middle of the first round onward. Hamonic is, IMO, the Flames third best overall defenceman, and has played a good shutdown role since at least the quarter mark this year. He's very underrated on this forum.

Right now it is about 50/50 that the Flames #1 pick that they traded will be bottom 15.

In the bottom 15 of 2015 draft

Barzal
Connor
Boesser

That would have far more trade value than Hamonic

Beauvillier
Konecny
Roslovic

That would be very hard for the drafting teams to trade even up for Hamonic.

Washington would not likely trade Samsonov

So that makes it 7/15 .

Cost control? The players out of the draft are cost controlled for 5-6 years at around 1M /year definitely less than 2M Should the team only want them for 5-6 years.

[Philly06Cup]

In his last 2+ years in ARI, Michael Stone averaged 21min TOI, was on the top pairing, got PP time, had over two shots on a goal a game, and over 2 hits per game. He was a clear top 4 guy, but has been absolutely nerfed in Calgary.

Cole is a career bottom 4 guy.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Right now it is about 50/50 that the Flames #1 pick that they traded will be bottom 15.

In the bottom 15 of 2015 draft

Barzal
Connor
Boesser

That would have far more trade value than Hamonic

Beauvillier
Konecny
Roslovic

That would be very hard for the drafting teams to trade even up for Hamonic.

Washington would not likely trade Samsonov

So that makes it 7/15 .

Cost control? The players out of the draft are cost controlled for 5-6 years at around 1M /year definitely less than 2M Should the team only want them for 5-6 years.

Cherry picking. 6-7 players out of 15 (four of which I wouldn't trade for Hamonic). And out of a fairly deep draft. Try 2014, where there's only one player I'd take over Hamonic. Or 2016. Or maybe more relevant, 2018. Which player do you want more than Hamonic there?