Bettman: No basis for a Calgary arena deal anytime soon

[DJones]

Originally Posted by Svartsengi

There is no where for the Flames to go other than Calgary. Bettman and Murray Edwards can stick it!.

Optimistic.

I don't think the owners care either way. Once they sell it doesn't matter to them where they go.

[Brick]

Billionaires should build their own buildings.

If it's not feasible for the Flames owners, it isn't for the City either.

[Northendzone]

Bettman has sold new arenas to ogdenville & north haberbrook.....

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by DJones

Optimistic.



I don't think the owners care either way. Once they sell it doesn't matter to them where they go.

I would expect that like all NHL team sales there will be massive pressure from the BoG for Flames ownership to find local buyers.

[Moneyhands23]

I hope the owners sell and soon

[Jbo]

Yup, I’m at the point where I would like to see Flames ownership sell, on the condition the buyer keeps them in Calgary.

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by Jbo

Yup, I’m at the point where I would like to see Flames ownership sell, on the condition the buyer keeps them in Calgary.

Yup. Sucks to have owners that spend to the cap each and every year despite playing in a small market in one of the oldest arenas in the league. I can’t wait to get rid of those bastards.......

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by DJones

Why the hell did it have to be Calgary to finally make a stand.

God it would suck to lose the FLames.

Don't worry, they're not going anywhere.

They'll play the emotional appeal card, and will want you to think there's a strong risk in them leaving. But in the end, a deal will get done and a new arena will be built in the next decade.

[trublmaker]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

I fully support Bettman and the owners vs the PA but dear god he is a slime ball. He obviously wants to make the Calgary taxpayers pay thru the nose for the Flames expensive new toy. What a huckster.

don't forget he works for the NHL so he's doing his job by working in favor of the Flames interests.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I would expect that like all NHL team sales there will be massive pressure from the BoG for Flames ownership to find local buyers.

I would be very surprised if the BOG put pressure on the Flames owners to sell to a local group, and if the Flames owners decide to sell, they're going to look at the best offer for them, and if its local its local, if its not, they'll take the money.

[Erick Estrada]

Like there's going to be a local ownership group willing to pay $600 million to buy the team and then put up another $500 million for an arena. That's fantasy. The team will need a new building eventually because nobody is going to pay for the team and new arena to keep the team in Calgary. Maybe it won't happen under Nenshi's rule but it's going to happen and I sense the Flames owners will simply wait another four years.

[TheAlpineOracle]

Do people actually believe there would be another group of people who would buy the Flames and agree to keep them in Calgary without a new area deal in place? That’s pure fantasy land. If the Flames ownership ever sell this team, it likely won’t be to a local group and it won’t come with a promise to keep the team in Calgary.

[Tyler]

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

Do people actually believe there would be another group of people who would buy the Flames and agree to keep them in Calgary without a new area deal in place? That’s pure fantasy land. If the Flames ownership ever sell this team, it won’t be to a local group and it won’t come with a promise to keep the team in Calgary.

When was the last time a Canadian team's ownership group changed hands?

Very rarely.

Trust me, there is a current lineup to be an NHL owner, and most would step over their own mother to own a Canadian franchise.

Murray Edwards will never sell this team. He's way to proud. People are getting way too bent out of shape about this. This is simply a waiting game.

[ignite09]

Yeah, I don't understand where this narrative came from, that there's a line up of billionaire Calgarians, just waiting for the team to hit the market so they can sink over a billion dollars into buying the Flames and fully funding a new arena. That seems extremely unlikely.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

Bettman has sold new arenas to ogdenville & north haberbrook.....

Brockway never gets its due.

[Steveyoto]

So let the City build an Arena with an operating partner and then lease the ice time to the Flames. The Flames will not get anything but a new arena, they will pay a huge lease, they will not operate the venue, they will not earn parking revenue, they will not have much control of the design/build. They will however have a "new Arena".... Which is not what they want, they want control. They at like they want a new arena, in reality they just want out from under the Stampede board.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Tyler

When was the last time a Canadian team's ownership group changed hands?

Very rarely.

Trust me, there is a current lineup to be an NHL owner, and most would step over their own mother to own a Canadian franchise.

Murray Edwards will never sell this team. He's way to proud. People are getting way too bent out of shape about this. This is simply a waiting game.

Sorry I only partially trust you, if the Flames put the team up, any local ownership group is going to want a even more generous arena offer then the Flames current ownership wants, and a non local group will have an or else clause in their offer to purchase to keep the team in the city.

Going back to that Forbes article, the Flames are not a massive money making organization.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Steveyoto

So let the City build an Arena with an operating partner and then lease the ice time to the Flames. The Flames will not get anything but a new arena, they will pay a huge lease, they will not operate the venue, they will not earn parking revenue, they will not have much control of the design/build. They will however have a "new Arena".... Which is not what they want, they want control. They at like they want a new arena, in reality they just want out from under the Stampede board.

In this scenario the Flames owners also don't put up any of their money or assets into an arena.

It is one thing to expect lots of revenue streams if you think you are contributing $100s of millions of dollars. It is a completely different scenario when you don't have to risk anything.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Like there's going to be a local ownership group willing to pay $600 million to buy the team and then put up another $500 million for an arena. That's fantasy.

So is the notion anybody is being asked to fork over $500M for the arena.

[dino7c]

Forget about potential free agents with so much up in the air...players would probably rather not play in a dump (by NHL standards) either

Calgary needs a new arena...just get it done