[News] Preliminary agreement reached for new Ottawa arena

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Ottawa Next!

This was my first thought; the location is actually sort of similar to the original NEXT proposal. Unused area by the river adjacent to downtown. That's the right call and should make a big difference in terms of attendance, I'd think.

[Parallex]

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[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by getbak

Financing is the all-important question. If it involves mostly private financing, it will be a real kick in the balls to the Flames' position.

If it involves them asking for a bunch of public money from the city, expect it to slip into the same limbo that we're in now in Calgary.

CSEC will just point to how this bid is about development rights around the arena and that's why they should get them for what's around a new arena as well. Because that's what this is about as much as getting an arena with much better economics than the one in the middle of nowhere.

[SilverKast]

That's a great location for a rink in Ottawa. Their existing rink is so far in the middle of nowhere it's ridiculous. The Calgary comparative would be like having the Saddledome out by Airdrie somewhere and then moving to East Village downtown.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

CSEC will just point to how this bid is about development rights around the arena and that's why they should get them for what's around a new arena as well. Because that's what this is about as much as getting an arena with much better economics than the one in the middle of nowhere.

I get that CSEC are more concerned/enticed by the business opportunities around an arena than the arena itself, but as citizens I think we'd be much better off having things being developed by someone with experience, as opposed to the Flames who have shown they are lacking in experience and ability.

I think the Flames biggest mistake was their assumption that they could all just do it themselves. They really should've hired a development firm to do all the work for them....they'd probably be cutting ribbons by now.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I get that CSEC are more concerned/enticed by the business opportunities around an arena than the arena itself, but as citizens I think we'd be much better off having things being developed by someone with experience, as opposed to the Flames who have shown they are lacking in experience and ability.

I think the Flames biggest mistake was their assumption that they could all just do it themselves. They really should've hired a development firm to do all the work for them....they'd probably be cutting ribbons by now.

Yeah, but why go with experience when you can go with Greg Gilbert and Craig Button.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I get that CSEC are more concerned/enticed by the business opportunities around an arena than the arena itself, but as citizens I think we'd be much better off having things being developed by someone with experience, as opposed to the Flames who have shown they are lacking in experience and ability.

I think the Flames biggest mistake was their assumption that they could all just do it themselves. They really should've hired a development firm to do all the work for them....they'd probably be cutting ribbons by now.

Well they claimed they have a development partner (who wanted to build an office tower), but there were also no request for proposals with what the Flames put out there, which was just an arena/stadium with a poor presentation, and the desire for development rights came out after.

Here the city (NCC) asked for proposals that help get an arena built in addition to all the other stuff they want for the area.


http://s3.amazonaws.com/ncc-ccn/docu...20170420135432

This was the Rendezvous Lebreton proposal. They want an arena and they want development rights, but you'd think this was a completely altruistic proposal for public amenities, urban renewal and celebration, and why would anybody dare oppose this thing?


Which only goes to highlight your point, that CSEC doesn't have the experience or ability. Eugene freaking Melnyk was able to outclass them with his partnership. Just ridiculous.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Well they claimed they have a development partner (who wanted to build an office tower), but there were also no request for proposals with what the Flames put out there, which was just an arena/stadium with a poor presentation, and the desire for development rights came out after.

The City also put out a fact sheet where they said that Flames didn't commit to building anything in the area that would pay property tax (and really who actually believes that the Flames had that? With DT office vacancy rates as high as they are? Baloney, he didn't have squat).

[Nsd1]

It will be built just in time for Sens fans to watch Karlsson win the cup on another team.

[FlamesAddiction]

As a pub owner in the area, this can't happen soon enough!

[Monahammer]

Infuriating that Ottawa was able to get this done. Looking forward to seeing the juicy details.

Our ownership is potentially officially more greedy than/ as cheap as fricken Eugene Melnyk... help!

[Flash Walken]

Amateur hour in Calgary.

[billybob123]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Wait, the NCC isn't gifting the land like in the Flames proposal?

Developer is also responsible for cleanup of the site, contamination of which includes creosote.

[RT14]

Originally Posted by scotty2hotty

Actually looks like a modern day Saddledome to me.

It really does, now that you mention it. I really like it from that angle and would love it if the Flames had unveiled that as their design! We’ll see what happens I guess.