Different type of list - Top historical betrayals

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Locke

Laserdisc.

Promises were made Laserdisc.....promises were made!

oh, I'm sorry you're not allowed to watch movies off of a manhole cover anymore Locke.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by nik-

oh, I'm sorry you're not allowed to watch movies off of a manhole cover anymore Locke.

Still a betrayal!

[Cuz]

The Night of the Long Knives, during patriation talks in 1980. Well, at least according to Rene Levesque. He alleges that the other premieres stabbed him in the back by agreeing to terms with Trudeau on patriation and the included Charter.

[Locke]

Is the 'Red Wedding' on the table?

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Locke

Is the 'Red Wedding' on the table?

Not once we've already had several Star Wars posts, you geeks and Nerds only get one bite at the humour apple, after that you just seem desperate, or worse serious.

[White Out 403]

Ukraine agrees to surrender their nuclear weapons post Soviet Union, with NATO agreeing to defend Ukraine in case Russia invades.

Russia annexes Crimea and NATO scratches their asses.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

Ukraine agrees to surrender their nuclear weapons post Soviet Union, with NATO agreeing to defend Ukraine in case Russia invades.

Russia annexes Crimea and NATO scratches their asses.

You could throw in anything involving the USSR and Poland/Ukraine from the Peace of Riga onwards

[VladtheImpaler]

Guy Burgess, Kim Philby et al
Cliff Fletcher v the Flames

[Dion]

Danielle Smith and the Wild Rose Party

[Oling_Roachinen]

Alan Eagleson and Bobby Orr.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Guy Burgess, Kim Philby et al
Cliff Fletcher v the Flames

They were always communists and everyone knew it, they just had the right old school tie, in the UK that trumps anything.

I suspect Pocklington and the trading of Gretzky would be the ultimate hockey betrayal, of both the player and the town, of course in retrospect we now know they deserved every minute of it, but at the time it seemed shameful

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Nice. Jar Jar's betrayal at the Senate(even though he didn't know he was betraying them) is also a good one.

But he didn't betray the Senate, he did what the Senate wanted.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Dion

Danielle Smith and the Wild Rose Party

WIld rose members betraying Danielle Smith at their policy convention leading to an NDP government.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Alan Eagleson and Bobby Orr.

I would also add Phil Esposito and Bruins GM Harry Sinden. Sinden left it up to coach Don Cherry and Bobby Orr to deliver the news that he had been traded. Orr shows up in a tee shirt and his underwear with Cherry in his housecoat. Phil is sitting on the end of his bed with his highrise hotel window open. Cherry tells Phil he had been traded and Phil said if it was the NY Rangers he would jump out of the window. Cherry tells Orr to close the window

Phil considered it the ultimate betrayal when Harry didn't take the time to talk to him about the trade and the reasons why. Phil wanted to be a Bruin for life.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Dion

Phil considered it the ultimate betrayal when Harry didn't take the time to talk to him about the trade and the reasons why. Phil wanted to be a Bruin for life.

Was there a reason why outside of Park and Ratelle?

I mean, trading a past-his-prime (but of course great) Esposito for an in his prime always-the-bridesmaid-never-the-Norris-bride Brad Park and not-to-shabby top-100-player-of-all-time Jean Ratelle seems like a no-brainer in retrospect. Of course it didn't result in the ultimate prize, but Ratelle went on to score 90 points in 67 games with the Bruins the season he was traded. He scored a total of 450 points in 419 games with the Bruins, Brad Park scored 381 in 425 games as a defensemen. Esposito put up 404 with the Rangers in 422 games. Funny thing is, without the Orr and Eagleson issue this trade might not happen. With Sniden unable to reach a deal with Orr, getting the second best defenseman in the league to replace the best made the most sense.

I suppose it was maybe the way it was handled instead of the trade itself because I can't blame Sinden on that one in terms of on-ice management.

[afc wimbledon]

Glencoe, to get back to the historical perspective

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Was there a reason why outside of Park and Ratelle?

I mean, trading a past-his-prime (but of course great) Esposito for an in his prime always-the-bridesmaid-never-the-Norris-bride Brad Park and not-to-shabby top-100-player-of-all-time Jean Ratelle seems like a no-brainer in retrospect. Of course it didn't result in the ultimate prize, but Ratelle went on to score 90 points in 67 games with the Bruins the season he was traded. He scored a total of 450 points in 419 games with the Bruins, Brad Park scored 381 in 425 games as a defensemen. Esposito put up 404 with the Rangers in 422 games. Funny thing is, without the Orr and Eagleson issue this trade might not happen. With Sniden unable to reach a deal with Orr, getting the second best defenseman in the league to replace the best made the most sense.

I suppose it was maybe the way it was handled instead of the trade itself because I can't blame Sinden on that one in terms of on-ice management.

Sinden made it well known that he always had to have the best defenceman on his team. He knew of Orr's many injuries and felt it was in the best interests of the team long term to get the second best defenceman of the time in Park.

Espo felt betrayed as he had gotten a verbal agreement from Sinden earlier that summer that he wouldn't trade him. Add to that he turned down a very lucrative offer earlier from Jim Pattison who owned the Vancouver Blazers of the WHA. He was offered a 5 year deal worth 2.5 million plus a million dollar signing bonus. A lot of money for players back then.

[activeStick]

Grant Fuhr signing with the Flames? Those were weird times.

[Northendzone]

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[Buff]

Shawn Michaels betrayed Marty Jannetty.