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Old 11-26-2017, 07:53 PM   #21
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^ lured to Air drive by the 12 minute commute downtown no doubt
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Old 11-26-2017, 08:27 PM   #22
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Just at first? What changed your mind?
It is fake
Figured it was an opinion piece from some guy at the Globe and Mail. Is it actually fake or some sad attempt at satire? Because if it's satire, it didn't really work, as the topic it's trying to make fun of actually has a lot of merit to it.

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Old 11-26-2017, 10:15 PM   #23
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Had to be satire but sadly a lot of what he says is true. Personally, as a middle aged man with a young family this town sucks giant donkey balls. A ####hole, I mean a really crappy house in a decent neighborhood is $1.3mil. Can't find even a remotely decent apartment for my oldest under $800 so he lives at home as do all of his friends. I live less than 20km from work and it will routinely take me 45-50 minutes to get to work. Right now I get home in time to get the kids and stand out in the rain for an hour for soccer or football, it's grand, bloody paradise I tells ya.

I hate this bloody place and damn near any town in Canada would be better than here. Crappy part of both my wife and I working in film/TV. Would move in a heartbeat if work was transferable.
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Can't imagine why any mayor would say that. What a weirdo.
dudes name is Gregor. enough said
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Had to be satire but sadly a lot of what he says is true. Personally, as a middle aged man with a young family this town sucks giant donkey balls. A ####hole, I mean a really crappy house in a decent neighborhood is $1.3mil. Can't find even a remotely decent apartment for my oldest under $800 so he lives at home as do all of his friends. I live less than 20km from work and it will routinely take me 45-50 minutes to get to work. Right now I get home in time to get the kids and stand out in the rain for an hour for soccer or football, it's grand, bloody paradise I tells ya.

I hate this bloody place and damn near any town in Canada would be better than here. Crappy part of both my wife and I working in film/TV. Would move in a heartbeat if work was transferable.
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Vancouver is a blue chip city with bluechip prices.

But you have to be born into money to actually own a house in Vancouver proper, and to fully enjoy the city.


Born,raised, and currently have a condo in west van, but went to UofC

Calgary is underrated nationally, its by FAR the best city between Vancouver and T.O. and offers a quality of life thats great, and attainable.

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Old 11-27-2017, 01:32 AM   #27
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Vancouver would definitely be my first choice of city if I were moving back to Canada any time soon. Possibly my only choice of actual city, though somewhere in the Okanagan or the island could be nice for a different lifestyle.

I hated the rain while living there during my undergrad, but I do think there's great quality of life to be had.
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Had to be satire but sadly a lot of what he says is true. Personally, as a middle aged man with a young family this town sucks giant donkey balls. A ####hole, I mean a really crappy house in a decent neighborhood is $1.3mil. Can't find even a remotely decent apartment for my oldest under $800 so he lives at home as do all of his friends. I live less than 20km from work and it will routinely take me 45-50 minutes to get to work. Right now I get home in time to get the kids and stand out in the rain for an hour for soccer or football, it's grand, bloody paradise I tells ya.

I hate this bloody place and damn near any town in Canada would be better than here. Crappy part of both my wife and I working in film/TV. Would move in a heartbeat if work was transferable.
Thats the thing, every City is different for different people.

Housing costs and availability though are a pretty tough obstacle to overcome though.

Look, Vancouver isnt a dump by any means, most Canadian Cities arent, they just fit some people better than others.

Some people love Rural Saskatchewan and some people love Toronto, you just have to find your fit.
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Arguably not as attractive as some major US cities (depends on your priorities, really - US culture isn't for me), .
I shake my head at this comment. Blanket statement about US culture is like saying the culture is the same in Quebec as it is in Alberta. Just dumb or lazy to say that. I'm been to many different places in the US and the culture is vastly different in Atlanta than it is in Portland.
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I lived there for 2 years.

Horrible traffic and badly planned roads.

Housing crisis.

Capped off by relentless rain.

I love visiting, but I'm not interested in living there ever again.
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Even Art Bergmann left Vancouver.

For Airdrie.
So much for being bound for Vegas...
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But you have to be born into money to actually own a house in Vancouver proper, and to fully enjoy the city.
I did not come from money. I don't think I grew up poor, but whatever is one rung above that is where my family was. I moved to Calgary 20 years ago with literally $20.

I moved to Vancouver in 2008. Three years ago I bought a house in Vancouver near the children's hospital, and have since knocked it down. Hopefully next month I'll be able to move into it once construction is complete. I did not inherit money, win a lottery, or anything out of the ordinary. If you work hard, make wise choices, sacrifice certain things, have some good luck on your side, you can accomplish a lot. Obviously it's harder to buy a house in Vancouver than in Calgary. A lot of that is the supply of houses is shrinking in Vancouver, and there aren't any other locations to put them. Some of it is the weather, and some of it is the location. To say you need to be born into money to own a house is patently false.
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By god I've hit the jackpot! I actually meant monthly rent but I think that link just proves the point. A $800K two bedroom condo is just ridiculous.

I actually consider myself lucky, I rent but I started renting at a good price 5 years ago and they have only raised the rent about $100 a month in that time. I have people at work paying almost as much for a one bedroom apartment as I do for a 3 bedroom 3 bathroom townhouse.

Wife and I just started making good money but I think it is too late for us to buy, don't think we can come up with a $500K or $600K down payment anytime soon to make a mortgage palatable.


I'll add that I really do enjoy my life out here. I don't do a lot of the Vancouver things but we are getting out a little more now. Harrison Hot Springs, Squamish, Sunshine coast, I do enjoy this places. Also have great friends for myself and the family. And the rain doesn't bother me really but it did affect my wife.

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By god I've hit the jackpot! I actually meant monthly rent but I think that link just proves the point. A $800K two bedroom condo is just ridiculous.

I actually consider myself lucky, I rent but I started renting at a good price 5 years ago and they have only raised the rent about $100 a month in that time. I have people at work paying almost as much for a one bedroom apartment as I do for a 3 bedroom 3 bathroom townhouse.

Wife and I just started making good money but I think it is too late for us to buy, don't think we can come up with a $500K or $600K down payment anytime soon to make a mortgage palatable.
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I did not come from money. I don't think I grew up poor, but whatever is one rung above that is where my family was. I moved to Calgary 20 years ago with literally $20.

I moved to Vancouver in 2008. Three years ago I bought a house in Vancouver near the children's hospital, and have since knocked it down. Hopefully next month I'll be able to move into it once construction is complete. I did not inherit money, win a lottery, or anything out of the ordinary. If you work hard, make wise choices, sacrifice certain things, have some good luck on your side, you can accomplish a lot. Obviously it's harder to buy a house in Vancouver than in Calgary. A lot of that is the supply of houses is shrinking in Vancouver, and there aren't any other locations to put them. Some of it is the weather, and some of it is the location. To say you need to be born into money to own a house is patently false.
So your advice is buy a house 10 years ago before they doubled in value and then profit?
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I will admit to misreading that.

Even 3 years ago real estate prices were almost half what they are now. It's that massive gain over the last 2-3 years that have pushed an expensive market into an unaffordable one:



This idea that people can afford a property if they work hard is quite flawed. People on fixed incomes, like policemen, teachers, nurses, etc... can't find a way to save up the kind of money required for a property now. Basically when the run down houses increased from $600-800k to $1.2-$1.5, it priced everyone not making $200k+/year out of the market.
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I bought my house in a suburb of Vancouver in March of 2014.

I consider myself extremely fortunate.

There is no way I could get a house in this market today.
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I bought my house in a suburb of Vancouver in March of 2014.

I consider myself extremely fortunate.

There is no way I could get a house in this market today.
I think the real estate crisis is horrible for what it's done for the community, but I purchased a condo downtown 7 years ago, that's worth considerably more than I paid for it now. So yes, for anyone who has the property already, they're lucky. For anyone else their SOL. It's an absolutely horrible thing, that the government has allowed to happen.

Also, Vancouver is not a "blue chip" city. It's a great place to live no doubt, and the nature is wonderful, but if you've ever spent time in cities like London, Tokyo, NYC, etc...those are "blue chip" cities. Vancouver has just been taken advantage of by foreign investors.
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