TSN Top 50 Players 2017-2018

[djsFlames]

Yeah, Crosby has 3 cups to his name, and a long track record of being at the top of the league. He also his 120 points in his second season. Let's see McDudley do some of those things first.

Not like 2nd best is something to really be butthurt over anyways..

It's a little sad that "experts" that follow this league for years are now putting hype ahead of substance.

[Redlan]

I do not find this list at all useful and it appears pretty subjective...more like popularity poll. No real discussion with regards to ranking. I get it if it was for fantasy purposes but that does not seem to be the purpose. 22 TSN Experts . How about some real analysis, tell me why a player receives a higher ranking even though there are those with higher statistics or advanced stats. Do not just give me flavor of the week.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by sa226

The whole Mcdavid Crosby thing. Meh. It is what it is. I still think Crsoby is the best, but I get what they are going for.

But I need some unbiased chap to inform me on this whole Draisaitl thing. Yes he broke out last year, yes 77pts is nothing to sniff at, but this meteoric rise to the top of peoples lists has to be largely stat based doesn't it? I have hardly watched the guy play, so maybe I'm out to lunch, but it feels like he is bring grossly overrated. For reference, I feel the same way about Kucherov.

I dunno maybe I'm the one who is out to lunch.

These lists are always based on "What have you done for me lately".

Same reason Gaudreau was 16th on last year's list.

[Sandman]

I think if the playoffs were tomorrow, and you had your pick of players, Crosby should be the first choice. Five years from now-not so much...

[albertGQ]

I like TSN but didn't they have Toews top 2 (or top 3) for like 3 years in a row?

[PeteMoss]

All the previous ranks are in the table at the bottom. Toews has never been lower than 8th and in the top 3 4 times. Ahead of Kane every year but the last two.

[EldrickOnIce]

I suppose it depends how you define 'top' 50.
Little question McDavid is the top point getter.

[brocoli]

I too as an Oilers fan would not put McJesus above Crosby. I think that the race is close, but all around there are still things to be learned on the defensive side by the Oiler captain.

I think that the worst one like was mentioned above was the Draisaitl over Getzlaf or Toews. It was 1 playoffs. Getzlaf was also a beast and is scary with the puck all over the ice. Draisaitl is only really scary from the hash marks down

[robaur]

Originally Posted by sa226

The whole Mcdavid Crosby thing. Meh. It is what it is. I still think Crsoby is the best, but I get what they are going for.

But I need some unbiased chap to inform me on this whole Draisaitl thing. Yes he broke out last year, yes 77pts is nothing to sniff at, but this meteoric rise to the top of peoples lists has to be largely stat based doesn't it? I have hardly watched the guy play, so maybe I'm out to lunch, but it feels like he is bring grossly overrated. For reference, I feel the same way about Kucherov.

I dunno maybe I'm the one who is out to lunch.

I can understand if you don't watch a lot of Tampa games, but Kucherov was a monster last year. Tampa was playing their 6th Center on the 1st line and Kucherov pretty much put that team on his back and put them within 2 points of the playoffs or something. 85 pts in 74 games....without another elite option is pretty crazy.

Stamkos, Johnson, Namestnikov, Filppula (trade), Boyle (trade) were all gone....he had Brayden Point playing Center for the latter part of the season.

Truly remarkable. I think he has an outside chance at 95+ points this season.

[d_phaneuf]

Talbot isn't the 4th best goalie in the league

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Monahan For Mayor

^ I disagree. I don't think most people think McDavid is better than Crosby.

He's going to be as early as this year if he isn't already so I don't understand why anyone would find it egregious.

[ricardodw]

wow no comments about Monahan not to be in the top 19 centers in the coming season...

Only Barkov in the top 50 from the 2013 draft

Gio and Hamilton were 8th and 9th in last years Norris voting and neither one is in the top 12 D for the coming season????


Gio was #27 on this list in 2015-16

[FireGilbert]

Not a horrible list and at least it provides us with something to talk about before the season.

McDavid is the top fantasy pick but Crosby is still the best player in the game. Also, what has Ovechkin done to piss of the TSN experts? Despite scoring at a lower than usual rate last season I still consider him a top 10 player.

It would have been nice to see Monahan on the list. I would place him ahead of Barkov, Kuznetsov, and Johansen but it is really close so I don't consider this a snub. The biggest omissions from the Flames are Gio and Hamilton. In what world do any experts consider Ekman-Larsson and Pietrangello to be better defencemen?

[Oling_Roachinen]

I'd personally put Crosby first. But no issue with McDavid going first...I mean the players literally just voted him the best player in the league a couple months ago.


I do take issue with no Monahan on the list though.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

I'd personally put Crosby first. But no issue with McDavid going first...I mean the players literally just voted him the best player in the league a couple months ago.


I do take issue with no Monahan on the list though.

If Monahan is indeed fully healthy, he's probably a lock for 65 points or more. Looked pretty damn sharp last game, scoring a high difficulty goal with what looks like no effort. I'd say he's highly underrated, as is the case with a few Flames players.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Talbot isn't the 4th best goalie in the league

Was voted the 4th best last year. So is it that far out to lunch?

McDavid was just voted by the media and the players as the best player. Is it far fetched to suggest the guy who is 10 years younger will play better next year? Not really.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

If Monahan is indeed fully healthy, he's probably a lock for 65 points or more. Looked pretty damn sharp last game, scoring a high difficulty goal with what looks like no effort. I'd say he's highly underrated, as is the case with a few Flames players.

How can a guy be a lock for a point total he has never reached before?

[H2SO4(aq)]

There are some aspects of crosbys game that aren't just the best in today's game, he does some things better than any player in nhl history. He's still head and shoulders a more complete player than mcdavid but points and mvp award will obviously drive a list like this.

This is like power rankings; who cares?

[kehatch]

Monahan isn't on the list because he isn't good enough to be on the list. There are fewer then 20 centres listed and he isn't in the top 20 of centres on the NHL. Which is a problem for the Flames. Every top centre from a cup winning team in the last decade is on the list. Except E. Staal and Datsyuk, both guys that would be near the top in their prime. Hopefully Monahan or Bennett take a big step forward this season.

[FireGilbert]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Monahan isn't on the list because he isn't good enough to be on the list. There are fewer then 20 centres listed and he isn't in the top 20 of centres on the NHL. Which is a problem for the Flames. Every top centre from a cup winning team in the last decade is on the list. Except E. Staal and Datsyuk, both guys that would be near the top in their prime. Hopefully Monahan or Bennett take a big step forward this season.

Monahan would likely be top 55 and the next centre listed. He was named the 20th best centre on the NHL network list:

https://www.nhl.com/news/top-20-cent...rs/c-290707570

I am not concerned about the Flames lacking a top centre to win a cup. Monahan can only improve from 20th and Bennett still has 1st line potential Also, having Backlund as a Selke contender on the 2nd line doesn't hurt.