07-01-2017, 12:48 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Decent AHL team but this is now two years in a row a team has just walked away from him (junior team didn't keep him or find a spot him and now the Flames). Makes you wonder if there is something going on here.
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I believe the issue in Ottawa was that CHL teams are limited in the number of both European and over-age players they can have on their rosters.
He would have been an over-age European and would have taken up two of those limited roster spots as a result.
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07-01-2017, 12:51 PM
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#22
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Originally Posted by Fire
I guess they didn't want to commit to a 3 year entry deal for a long shot. I suspect if they could have signed him to a one year deal they would have.
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Don't know how good the Kings' scouts are post-Lombardi firing but clearly they see something there. A 6'5" d-man who can skate and went on a goal scoring tear in the ECHL is gonna get attention.
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07-01-2017, 01:38 PM
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#23
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First Line Centre
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With the Flames D depth, this is a insignificant loss. We're already set on D for the next 5 or more years. Plus we just drafted a solid D for the system that includes Fox, Anderson and Kylington.
We'll be fine without Falkovsky
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07-01-2017, 02:07 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by getbak
I believe the issue in Ottawa was that CHL teams are limited in the number of both European and over-age players they can have on their rosters.
He would have been an over-age European and would have taken up two of those limited roster spots as a result.
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That is true. But you'd think you'd find a junior team out there willing to bite the bullet for an NHL drafted guy if he was that good.
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07-01-2017, 02:11 PM
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#25
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All I can get
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Flames cast off behemoths Kanzig and Falkovsky in the same week. Flames drafting faster, more nimble blue liners now. More than just a coincidence.
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07-01-2017, 02:14 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Flames cast off behemoths Kanzig and Falkovsky in the same week. Flames drafting faster, more nimble blue liners now. More than just a coincidence.
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Falkovsky can actually skate. One of his strongest assets. Nothing like Kanzig
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07-01-2017, 02:16 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Flames cast off behemoths Kanzig and Falkovsky in the same week. Flames drafting faster, more nimble blue liners now. More than just a coincidence.
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Falkovsky can skate though, and he can score.
I don't know why he wasn't given a bonafide contract offer after tearing up the E but I guess there was some parrallel Keegan Kanzig risk there of a guy just accepting the lowball offer.
Would suck if he's, like former unsigned Penguins late-rounder Jake Muzzin, actually a pretty good NHLer in the future.
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07-01-2017, 02:29 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
I believe the issue in Ottawa was that CHL teams are limited in the number of both European and over-age players they can have on their rosters.
He would have been an over-age European and would have taken up two of those limited roster spots as a result.
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Falkovsky can skate though, and he can score.
I don't know why he wasn't given a bonafide contract offer after tearing up the E but I guess there was some parrallel Keegan Kanzig risk there of a guy just accepting the lowball offer.
Would suck if he's, like former unsigned Penguins late-rounder Jake Muzzin, actually a pretty good NHLer in the future.
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Muzzin was a wildly different situation. He had a very serious back injury in junior and struggled for the two years post draft so the Penguins didn't sign him. He then got healthy and exploded in his last year of junior as an OA and got signed.
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07-01-2017, 02:35 PM
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#29
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Didn't want to cheer against Falkovsky's development.
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07-01-2017, 02:37 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Guess the Falcon was neither the hero Calgary wanted nor needed.
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07-01-2017, 02:40 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Well that's weird. He was only drafted a year ago.
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07-01-2017, 03:58 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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This is a wierd one. I'd love to be privy to managements decision on this one.
Hopefully he doesnt turn into anything now.
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07-01-2017, 04:01 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Not a huge loss but seems like poor asset management. Also... I have never heard of a 1 year elc, how the hell was his contract up after 1 year?
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07-01-2017, 04:02 PM
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#34
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by Matty81
Not a huge loss but seems like poor asset management. Also... I have never heard of a 1 year elc, how the hell was his contract up after 1 year?
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AHL/ECHL deal. The Flames never actually signed him. Stockton did.
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07-01-2017, 04:06 PM
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#35
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty81
Not a huge loss but seems like poor asset management. Also... I have never heard of a 1 year elc, how the hell was his contract up after 1 year?
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Again he never signed a NHL contract with the Flames, he wasn't under an ELC.
He signed an AHL/ECHL deal with Stockton/Adirondack.
As getbak previously explained, technically non-college bound draft picks need to be given a yearly bonafide NHL offer for teams to retain their rights for the maximum allowed per the CBA. This is normally a formality and it is uncommon for a team not to extend a bonafide offer to their draft picks.
The Flames elected not to give him a bonafide offer after one year, therefore they lost his rights.
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07-01-2017, 04:11 PM
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#36
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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BT needs to explain this one. Are we that close to 50 contracts that we couldn't stay patient with him? January rookie of the month in ECHL.
Could have gotten picks for him at least in 1 or 2 years if he continued.to develop.
He did drop off a cliff in production near end of year.
I wonder if he has attitude issues?
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07-01-2017, 04:14 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018
BT needs to explain this one. Are we that close to 50 contracts that we couldn't stay patient with him? January rookie of the month in ECHL.
Could have gotten picks for him at least in 1 or 2 years if he continued.to develop.
He did drop off a cliff in production near end of year.
I wonder if he has attitude issues?
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The chances of him having enough value to get picks back are very slim
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07-01-2017, 04:20 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
The Flames elected not to give him a bonafide offer after one year, therefore they lost his rights.
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But why?
It doesn't make sense to not make a bonafide offer to him.
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07-01-2017, 04:31 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bigrangy
But why?
It doesn't make sense to not make a bonafide offer to him.
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It does if the organization didn't believe he had a future.
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07-01-2017, 04:44 PM
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#40
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Wild GM
The chances of him having enough value to get picks back are very slim
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Not now agreed. But liked his trajectory so far. I think we are missing part of the story. Not typical BT asset management.
35 contracts out of 50 as of today. Looks like we still had some spots once our remaining AHL and NHL contracts signed.
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