06-14-2017, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by theslymonkey
I still can't believe that the Flames chose Aaron Johnson over Stralman...
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IIRC it was Staffan Kronwall they chose over Stralman.
But yeah, yikes either way.
Last edited by Roof-Daddy; 06-14-2017 at 12:23 PM.
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06-14-2017, 12:20 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theslymonkey
I still can't believe that the Flames chose Aaron Johnson over Stralman...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
IIRC it was Staffan Kronwall they chose over Stralman.
But yeah, yikes either way.
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Look....some of us try and forget these things happened.
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06-14-2017, 12:22 PM
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#23
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theslymonkey
I still can't believe that the Flames chose Aaron Johnson over Stralman...
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I still can't believe the Flames chose Steve Staios over Aaron Johnson.
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06-14-2017, 12:23 PM
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#24
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
IIRC it was Staffan Kronwall they chose over Stralman. They traded for Aaron Johnson at that ears deadline.
But yeah, yikes either way.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Look....some of us try and forget these things happened.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I still can't believe the Flames chose Steve Staios over Aaron Johnson.
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And we all used to say "In Sutter we trust..." 
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06-14-2017, 12:23 PM
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#25
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I still can't believe the Flames chose Steve Staios over Aaron Johnson.
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I still can't believe the Flames chose Niklas Hagman over Nigel Dawes.
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06-14-2017, 12:24 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Well now this is just getting depressing.
Can we all get back to laughing at the Rangers now?
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06-14-2017, 12:35 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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I'd be curious to see how many bought out players sign with a new team at below market value. Obviously that is subjective but is there recent precedents of this occurring?
What is the market value of Girardi?
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06-14-2017, 12:38 PM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Wait, someone's waiving or buying out an NHL hockey player??!! That sounds perfect for the Flames!!
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06-14-2017, 12:43 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by red sky
I'd be curious to see how many bought out players sign with a new team at below market value. Obviously that is subjective but is there recent precedents of this occurring?
What is the market value of Girardi?
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That's what the Ducks did with Mason Raymond. But that wasn't a success story.
Not recent, but that's how Calgary got Nolan and Bertuzzi.
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06-14-2017, 12:50 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by red sky
I'd be curious to see how many bought out players sign with a new team at below market value. Obviously that is subjective but is there recent precedents of this occurring?
What is the market value of Girardi?
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Brad Richards to Chicago.
It'll happen if the player is going for a cup.
I don't think they will sign for a bargain to a team that isn't a strong contender.
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06-14-2017, 12:54 PM
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#31
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First Line Centre
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Whatever happened to this guy? At one point he was a beast, hence the contract. Just disappeared after getting paid
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06-14-2017, 12:54 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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Ribiero was bought out of a 4 year deal after just one season by Arizona.
He then signed a one year deal with Nashville and put up 62 points.
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06-14-2017, 01:12 PM
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#33
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Wouldn't be a horrible option for the Flames at the right price
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If Girardi would actually be an upgrade for the Flames I think we all as fans need to adjust our expectations. Signing him is just a terrible idea for a team that is supposed to be trending upwards....maybe 4-5 years ago i could see it but another 33 year old one dimensional defender is not what this team needs.
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Last edited by Hot_Flatus; 06-14-2017 at 01:16 PM.
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06-14-2017, 01:29 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
Whatever happened to this guy? At one point he was a beast, hence the contract. Just disappeared after getting paid
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He was just a Michael Stone or Kris Russell type even at his best, a #5/#4 defenseman who seemed to pass the lazy eye test on a team that covered for his flaws, and had some offense to contribute. Then he started slowing down, league just gets faster and more skilled every year, more able to exploit those flaws. We saw it happen to Wideman too, except he was more offensively skewed in his prime.
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06-14-2017, 01:35 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
That's what the Ducks did with Mason Raymond. But that wasn't a success story.
Not recent, but that's how Calgary got Nolan and Bertuzzi.
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Nolan wasn't bought out and was playing with Phoenix for a 1M the year before signing with the Flames.
Bertuzzi was bought out at 4M and signed 2M, even after a decent year in Calgary he got less on the UFA market.
I would say neither of these guys qualify in the slightest.
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06-14-2017, 03:15 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Buyout cap hit $2.6MM for next season, $3.6MM for 2 seasons after that, and then $1.1MM for 3 seasons.
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Wow...that's ugly.
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06-14-2017, 03:17 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Is Girardi done as an NHLer??
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06-14-2017, 03:22 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
Wait, someone's waiving or buying out an NHL hockey player??!! That sounds perfect for the Flames!!
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The only good players to have been bought or waived in the last five years are Halak, Hoffman, Richards, Byron, and Weal. And Richards was a compliance buyout, those don't even count as buyouts.
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06-14-2017, 03:31 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
Whatever happened to this guy? At one point he was a beast, hence the contract. Just disappeared after getting paid
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I think he was always a little overrated to an extent but was in his prime pretty solid in his own and a good shot blocker and under Torts that worked to his advantage. Apparently he lost a step and that's when his game started to hit the skids.
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06-14-2017, 03:34 PM
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#40
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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He was terrible in the playoffs vs Ottawa. I wouldn't pick him up unless I was a young team in need of a vet to guide in practice.
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