[Signing] Kings sign Toffoli (3yrs, $4.6 mil AAV)

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

You'll never end up with long lasting "good deals" then, and it's incredibly difficult to succeed if you fail to do that.

But you will end up with an equal number of long lasting "bad deals".

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

In today's NHL, players perform better when they are younger. By the time they have performed, their best play may already be behind them.

I agree this is generally true. And I am not advocating signing older players to big money deals.

But if you start trying to sign your younger players with potential to long term deals on the hope they will improve and be bargains by the end of it, you are running a big risk. Like Lance Bouma multiplied.

I'd rather keep their AAV low, with short term and let them be incented to earn the big $ contract.

Sam Bennett for example: Pay him say $2 million * 2 years now. He blows up, and earns $18 million over next three years.

Or Flames could sign him today to a 5 year, $22 million deal. These are made up numbers, but you are taking on risk as an organization and eliminating the players upside which I see as a bad combination.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Pearson and Toffoli need new agents. Pricks letting the Kings off easy IMO.

Toffoli had a injury riddled year with 34 points in 63 games. He probably could have took a chance with a one year deal for another $3.25m(same as last year) but maybe he panicked a little and took the guarantee with a nice raise knowing in 3 years he'll be in his prime and be a UFA. Pearson's deal at $3.75 isn't bad for the player at all, he broke out with 20+ goals but it was his 5th pro season after all, if he felt he had superstar written on him he should have signed a one year "I can do it a again" contract for about $3m. Big risk for a player like him.

[EldrickOnIce]

Most interesting is the change in philosophy under Blake. Previously everyone would have got 8 year deals, and a lot of UFA years bought.
In some ways I like it. Worry about paying them big money after they have earned it.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Most interesting is the change in philosophy under Blake. Previously everyone would have got 8 year deals, and a lot of UFA years bought.
In some ways I like it. Worry about paying them big money after they have earned it.

Probably but they are also kind of handcuffed already with a lot of long term deals and not many of them look that great at present time. I don't know if they can afford to give out many more 5+ year deals as their roster is already set in stone until past 2020 for the most part. They are going to need players on entry level deals play above their contract values or it's not going to be pretty for them.

[Incogneto]

25 posts, and nothing on the Kings Animated GIF to announce it?
https://twitter.com/LAKings/status/872607537463402497

Hilarious....

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Gee, maybe the difference between RFAs and UFAs has something to do with it. I guess all those NHL GMs who didn't sign Toffoli for that money are idiots, huh?

Well its easy to avoid by not signing big, slow, never quite good enough wingers to long term unrestricted free agency deals!

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Well its easy to avoid by not signing big, slow, never quite good enough wingers to long term unrestricted free agency deals!

Oh, I see. So the fact that the Flames signed Brouwer makes it stupid of them not to have signed Toffoli?

[activeStick]

I didn't know there were so many posters here who are Kings fans. Always thought they were Flames fans...