05-21-2017, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Look at the Penguins right now. They're depending on older guys like Carter Rowney and Scott Wilson to be able to contribute in lieu of their injured players, not 18-22-year-olds who are unproven. The Flames need experienced guys like Vey around for this reason
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I don't see how that's an argument for the fact that losing Vey is bad.
Vey is not some experienced veteran who can step in and hold his own. He's played 18 games as injury relief on the 2014 Kings who won the cup without him on the roster for the playoffs. After that spending 86 games with a mediocre Canucks team while playing bottom 6 minutes without contributing much and being dreadful in the dot.
What has he shown that he would be a reliable player to be inserting into a playoff contending team's lineup when necessary? The only thing worth note is the fact that he's been able to score in the AHL.
If you believe that an organization requires depth that's capable of being called up and down without missing a beat, you won't find any disagreements. However Linden Vey is not a player that is worth the concern over losing.
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05-21-2017, 10:57 PM
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#22
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Wish Vey the best. However, in no vey is he irreplaceable. Hamilton and Hathaway are more useful as replacement level players and both look good for long stretches.
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05-21-2017, 11:01 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
He can join the long list of absolute nobodies who can put up 50+ points in the AHL and is useless in the NHL.
I know you like the Jaffrays of the hockey world, but Vey is as replaceable as they get.
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Probably. But Flames were remarkably healthy last year so we have little idea how the farm team forwards would fill in on an extended basis. He did seem like was useful in Stockton last year.
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05-22-2017, 08:10 AM
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Backup Goalie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Look at the Penguins right now. They're depending on older guys like Carter Rowney and Scott Wilson to be able to contribute in lieu of their injured players, not 18-22-year-olds who are unproven. The Flames need experienced guys like Vey around for this reason
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Oh lord. So Vey is now a guy who can hold the fort? Yes he's SO proven.
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05-22-2017, 08:57 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I wonder what Jason Morgan is up to these days.
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05-22-2017, 01:51 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I wonder what Jason Morgan is up to these days.
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He's coaching in Hungary.
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05-22-2017, 03:34 PM
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#27
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
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Hey! Good for him.
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07-02-2017, 04:48 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Because the Flames retained his RFA rights by giving him a qualifying offer, he can return to the Flames at any point next season without needing to clear waivers.
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07-02-2017, 05:43 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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Smart decision by Vey who will likely get way more money in the KHL then he would in the AHL. Who knows maybe something will click, he will light it up, and the Flames will have the option to sign him to a one way next year.
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11-13-2017, 04:10 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Just wanting to bump this to say that Vey is leading the KHL in scoring with 42 points in 31 games (11G-31A). Is it possible that he ever becomes a consistent NHLer? He put up good numbers in the AHL and now in the KHL. Could someone enlighten me on perhaps why he didn't/doesn't do well in the NHL?
.34PPG NHL
.82PPG AHL
1.31PPG KHL
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11-13-2017, 04:16 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Vey's an interesting player. When he has had extended NHL time, his point totals aren't terrible. And his AHL production is consistently good. But he's easily replaceable by young players on ELCs that may have longer-term value to franchises.
I think experiments with people like Cervenka, Shipchoyov, and a few others have shown the KHL to not be a very strong indicator of NHL success. He may make his way back to the NHL, but I doubt it. If I was him I would probably look at playing it out in Switzerland or Germany or something.
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11-13-2017, 06:52 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Hardest part of playing in the NHL compared to larger ice has to be the decreased decision making time. You have less time and space and a lot of these guy's hands just cant keep up
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11-13-2017, 07:35 PM
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Vey could get likely as many as 40 points if he played on a scoring line and got some PP time.
But on a contending team, he's nit good enough to play in the top 6, and his defence doesn't translate well enough for a bottom 6 role.
A definite tweaner.
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11-13-2017, 07:54 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Calgary
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wrong thread
Last edited by Hockey-and_stuff; 11-13-2017 at 08:48 PM.
Reason: wrong thread
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11-13-2017, 08:25 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Montréal, QC
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I don't know if signing Linden Vey would help any of that though.
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11-13-2017, 08:27 PM
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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Nigel Dawes is leading the KHL in goals. ‘Nuff said.
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11-13-2017, 08:46 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey-and_stuff
The Flames are giving up a lot of chances but the Blues have been doing this to teams all year, they are very good.
The Flames need to slow the Blues down in the neutral zone and defend the blue line better. Allowing the Blues to attack with this much speed is dangerous.
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Someone is clearly not watching the same game, nor posting in the same thread as the rest of us.
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11-13-2017, 08:48 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Calgary
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Oh dear, I posted that after the first. Also completely wrong thread, my bad.
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11-13-2017, 10:30 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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im just glad that Vey has found a place where he is enjoying success. He still has the craziest off ice distraction story i've ever heard. He's been through a lot and i hope it works out well for him.
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11-13-2017, 10:38 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Just wanting to bump this to say that Vey is leading the KHL in scoring with 42 points in 31 games (11G-31A). Is it possible that he ever becomes a consistent NHLer? He put up good numbers in the AHL and now in the KHL. Could someone enlighten me on perhaps why he didn't/doesn't do well in the NHL?
.34PPG NHL
.82PPG AHL
1.31PPG KHL
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Just tells you the KHL is a terrible league compared to the NHL.
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