Funny, I'm ex military, work with lots of ex military and I tend to swing the other way on this.
I remember reading an article that said a lot of soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan had trouble staying focused in regular, everyday, mundane jobs because once they experienced the adrenaline of combat, everything becomes boring. Even if they hated it, many re-enlisted because they just can't handle a "job".
It was an America article.
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My opinion has nothing to do with people who have been in combat.
The forces does a terrible job preparing people for the workforce.
You are told what to do, when to do it, and how. If you are an NCM you are taught that you can't think for yourself and to follow orders. If you're an officer you are taught you are above everyone and that your subservient lacks the intelligence to make decisions.
You can draw your own conclusions on what that looks like in the workplace.
I know people who have left the forces and excelled, but they were driven and had short military careers because they didn't buy in to that mentallity.
The longer someone has been in the forces the slimmer the odds they will adapt to the real world.
My opinion has nothing to do with people who have been in combat.
The forces does a terrible job preparing people for the workforce.
You are told what to do, when to do it, and how. If you are an NCM you are taught that you can't think for yourself and to follow orders. If you're an officer you are taught you are above everyone and that your subservient lacks the intelligence to make decisions.
You can draw your own conclusions on what that looks like in the workplace.
I know people who have left the forces and excelled, but they were driven and had short military careers because they didn't buy in to that mentallity.
The longer someone has been in the forces the slimmer the odds they will adapt to the real world.
To some extent yes and some no.
One thing I learnt was that it was necessary to "adapt, improvise and overcome". These are very useful skills to have in the workforce. The ability to continue with the job when faced with roadblock or barriers. The completion of the "mission" is key and at work that is of use.
I think the greatest skill I learnt was to not concern myself with decisions that are out of my pay grade, that I can't influence. I have been in meetings when new workflow or job approach are presented and co-workers go off the rails. The military teaches you to worry about what you can control and deal with that which you can't control.
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Swedens police have officially identified 55 'no go' zones (almost all are immigrant/refugee neighborhoods) and the anti-immigrant far right might win their next election. Sweden could also be bracing themselves for a small civil war.
Swedens police have officially identified 55 'no go' zones (almost all are immigrant/refugee neighborhoods) and the anti-immigrant far right might win their next election. Sweden could also be bracing themselves for a small civil war.
I've seen some of these reports by Fox, Breitbart, etc. on the no-go zones. On the one hand, it's entirely plausible. On the other hand, it just seems crazy to me that police would identify an entire area as as such.
This isn't Somalia or Syria, it's still Sweden. If there are legitimately areas that even the damn police are scared to venture into, then I don't see how the anti-immigrant sentiment at the minimum isn't a serious topic of discussion in Sweden (it seems it was largely brushed under the rug as overblown by the Swedish government and media).
I mean, there are areas in Chicago with insane murder rates and you would never hear it declared a 'no-go zone'.
Swedens police have officially identified 55 'no go' zones (almost all are immigrant/refugee neighborhoods) and the anti-immigrant far right might win their next election. Sweden could also be bracing themselves for a small civil war.
Swedens police have officially identified 55 'no go' zones (almost all are immigrant/refugee neighborhoods) and the anti-immigrant far right might win their next election. Sweden could also be bracing themselves for a small civil war.
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Originally Posted by polak
Link to the story from a legitimate source?
All I can find is this article debunking it from Buzzfeed (not the best source).
this is the closest I can find to a more central take on things:
I agree it's not as extreme as it being painted, I don't think Sweden is on the cusp of being torn apart, but it is certainly having trouble with hostile refugees and the people in power are definitely working to cover up the issues they're having. It seems a lot more likely to me that the government doesn't want to own up to the fact that their poor vetting process has brought a bunch of rapists and murderers in to their country, than that everything is going just fine in Sweden.
If Sweden gets a far right government who cuts off government hand outs and deports refugees, that means removing tens of thousands of people from ghettos that are already radicalizing and hostile to outsiders. Sweden will have massive riots on their hands at a minimum.
If you're hitting me with Buzzfeed, I'm hitting you with infowars:
I agree it's not as extreme as it being painted, I don't think Sweden is on the cusp of being torn apart, but it is certainly having trouble with hostile refugees and the people in power are definitely working to cover up the issues they're having. It seems a lot more likely to me that the government doesn't want to own up to the fact that their poor vetting process has brought a bunch of rapists and murderers in to their country, than that everything is going just fine in Sweden.
If Sweden gets a far right government who cuts off government hand outs and deports refugees, that means removing tens of thousands of people from ghettos that are already radicalizing and hostile to outsiders. Sweden will have massive riots on their hands at a minimum.
Wait you saw where I said it wasn't the best source, but I will say it is better source than anything this guy is associated with:
Claim: "In Sweden there are a number of 'no-go zones' where criminality and gangs have taken over and where the emergency services do not dare to go."
Facts: No. In a report published in February 2016, the Swedish Police Authority identified 53 residential areas around the country that have become increasingly marred by crime, social unrest and insecurity. These places have been incorrectly labelled 'no-go zones'. What is true, however, is that in several of these areas the police have experienced difficulties fulfilling their duties; but it is not the case that the police do not go to them or that Swedish law does not apply there.
The causes of the problems in these areas are complex and multifaceted. To reverse the trend, more initiatives are required from all of society, at all levels.
So in short we can agree that there are no "No Go Zones" in Sweden, nor is it on the verge of a "small civil war".
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So in short we can agree that there are no "No Go Zones" in Sweden, nor is it on the verge of a "small civil war".
So if a right wing government comes into power in Sweden and kicks out all the refugees, you envision that as being a smooth process with no violent incidents? No one declaring a jihad?
So if a right wing government comes into power in Sweden and kicks out all the refugees, you envision that as being a smooth process with no violent incidents?
Hard to answer I didn't bring my crystal ball to work today.
I can say that this:
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Swedens police have officially identified 55 'no go' zones (almost all are immigrant/refugee neighborhoods) and the anti-immigrant far right might win their next election. Sweden could also be bracing themselves for a small civil war.
Is factually incorrect.
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Hard to answer I didn't bring my crystal ball to work today.
I can say that this:
Is factually incorrect.
Except that it was correct, but then the police backtracked on what it meant? Whatever the definition of a 'no go' zone is, these neighbourhoods are having massive problems, much worse than what swedish politicians want us to believe,
Also, I said they may be bracing themselves for small civil war, not that one would happen. These neighborhoods radicalizing and starting massive violent riots is a real possibility and you don't want to be caught with your pants down when you have tens of thousands of rioters on your hands.
