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Old 11-21-2016, 12:53 PM   #21
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John Scott was one thing, but what happens when it gets carried away and the entire all-star roster is full of John Scotts?

Try to remember that the All-Star game is mostly for kids anyway, so this is really all about people trying taking away a piece of their candy and getting upset when the NHL makes that harder to do that.
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So we're just going to have to vote for someone with a NMC this time.
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Maybe instead of voting on Captains they have a "Underdog of the Year" vote for each conference so people can vote on letting a guy who normally wouldn't be there get a chance. Honestly Scott looked like he had a blast, it was great for his family, why not?

Of course the internet trolls would just vote for a good players in that case just to piss in the NHL's cornflakes.
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Try to remember that the All-Star game is mostly for kids anyway, so this is really all about people trying taking away a piece of their candy and getting upset when the NHL makes that harder to do that.
How do you figure it's all for kids? I know many casual fans who are adults who love the all-star game.
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Old 11-21-2016, 12:55 PM   #25
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I am fine with NHL picking the team of the most marketable players in the NHL. If my team doesn't make the cut, then so be it. And if you want fan involvement, let them vote the starting lineup of the game, or who the coach of each team is, or who the refs are, are what color the jerseys will be.
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It is funny that there are a few people who got upset with Scott being voted in. The players don't take it seriously - many of them don't even want to participate and try to find excuses to get out of it, necessitating the NHL to fine or suspend players for not showing up when selected. That's how silly it is.

The players don't play hard at all. To call it glorified shinny is to exaggerate it I think. Players go out there and barely compete. I have seen guys competing harder in shinny.

If you are going to open up fan voting, you should have at least had the foresight to think it out and ensure you got what you wanted in the first place. Making rule changes is just slapping everyone in the face. "You guys got it wrong last time, so this time we are going to put restrictions so that WE (the NHL and Official Party Poopers) get exactly what we want."

Why have fan voting? If the NHL wants to have the best players on the ice, have the players select them. Have the coaches select them. Whatever. Don't tell me I got it wrong last time. I will not want to vote and tune in this time.
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John Scott was one thing, but what happens when it gets carried away and the entire all-star roster is full of John Scotts?

Try to remember that the All-Star game is mostly for kids anyway, so this is really all about people trying taking away a piece of their candy and getting upset when the NHL makes that harder to do that.
What's next, dogs marrying cats??
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Maybe instead of voting on Captains they have a "Underdog of the Year" vote for each conference so people can vote on letting a guy who normally wouldn't be there get a chance. Honestly Scott looked like he had a blast, it was great for his family, why not?

Of course the internet trolls would just vote for a good players in that case just to piss in the NHL's cornflakes.
No, that would be the worst reaction the NHL could have to this, to oversaturate something that was clearly only going to be cool once. This new rule is actually perfect, and that's coming from someone who loved having John Scott there.

Last year was when the NHL really looked like ****. You got beat by a rule, suck it up and change it next year, like they did now. Don't fart around with loopholes as a slap in the face to the fans and player on a nothing game designed to bring fans to the rink to see the lighter side of hockey and it's players.

Good lord, that was one of the stupidest "Oh no, we ain't lettin' this happen" backtracks a league has ever waded into.
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:09 PM   #30
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CP logic:

World Cup of Hockey = Bad. Meaningless gimmick tournament

Dirty AHL nobody gets voted in as a joke to play in the ultimate meaningless gimmick game = Good. Heartwarming underdog story
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:12 PM   #31
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One of the best stories to ever come out of an ASG - one that is more likely to stick in people's brains longer and more prominently than most - and the NHL have prevented anything happening like that ever again. Props guys!
Kind of irrelevant, or actually very astute by the NHL. The Scott story, which I loved (I lie, I was indifferent too), falls into the it was funny / fun the first time category. If internet trolls started to repeat history for every NHL All Star game, it would go from being something neat and special to being a real big pain in the ass and ruin the game (if that's even possible, it is the All Start game after all) pretty quickly.

This years incarnation of the "Scott story" simply wouldn't be exciting, because it would have lost all it's uniqueness moving forward.

Good decision.
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:13 PM   #32
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Not far enough to stop another John Scott. The hype machine will just latch on to a player in a different situation. Maybe a guy like Deryk Engelland.
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:22 PM   #33
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CP logic:

World Cup of Hockey = Bad. Meaningless gimmick tournament

Dirty AHL nobody gets voted in as a joke to play in the ultimate meaningless gimmick game = Good. Heartwarming underdog story
I'm not sure how thinking both of those things is a failure in logic.

Both are meaningless, but you can still be happy for a plug getting into the All-Star game. Especially since it apparently rustled Bettman's jimmies to the utmost.
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:23 PM   #34
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lol wait so, we're still allowed to vote someone in? The NHL is so dumb. Just don't allow write ins and problem solved haha
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:30 PM   #35
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CP logic:

World Cup of Hockey = Bad. Meaningless gimmick tournament

Dirty AHL nobody gets voted in as a joke to play in the ultimate meaningless gimmick game = Good. Heartwarming underdog story
Or as I'm thinking a lot of people see it:

Meaningless gimmick tournament = Bad
Meaningless gimmick game that fans trolled = Good.
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My solution is to go back to these:

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I remember using my buddies asthma inhaler to punch stacks of those things at a time. Amazing I was never recruited as a professional ballot-stuffer.
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:38 PM   #38
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Keep the All Star game the sacred institution that it is.

Fun or troll voting? How dare you?
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:45 PM   #39
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People say the NHL shouldn't even have an All Star game. Then the NHL comes out with a ruling like this and people get outraged. LOL.
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:46 PM   #40
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This is the tip of the iceberg for allstar game traditionalists. Just wait until they implement the 3 conferences.
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