[News] Sportsnet 2008 draft re-do

[bax]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

all I am assaying is that TJ was a 4th round pick that worked out.

if the scouts were really that smart, then they would have been pushing him as a higher pick for the flames (I will concede that perhaps they were and they were overruled).

to summarize Calgary 2008 draft was as follows:

Neimsz, Wahl, Bouma, Larson, Brodie, Grantham and Deilbert - so the flames got meaningful mileage out of 2 out of 7 guys (~30%). if the scouting staff were really that smart then why were they so wrong about neimsz?

can't celebrate the wins without ignoring the misses

as I recall datsuyk (sp?) was an 8th round pick - if the detriots scouts were smart then would he not have been a much higher pick?

to me the draft is a crapshoot, but if you are really smart and talented at evaluating players, you can increase your odds somewhat.

Maximizing your draft is about taking players that you're confident in as late as possible. If the scouts were comfortable that Brodie would most likely be on the board in the 4th round then why use an earlier pick? Use the earlier pick on a guy who you like and know won't be around later.

Very few drafted players turn into NHL'ers let alone impact NHL'ers. You can look at any team's draft history and pick it apart with hindsight.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Yes, but Doughty is the more complete defenseman and arguably the best at that position in the league. The (arguably) top D-man in the league or one of the better centers in the league?... I'd pick the D-man every time.

Seeing Doughty in person Saturday night really increased my appreciation for how good he is. He's fantastic player. I'd have him #1 overall.

[Erick Estrada]

Doughty has two Stanley Cup rings to prove his worth at number 1 on the list.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Doughty has two Stanley Cup rings to prove his worth at number 1 on the list.

Doughty is amazing, no doubt. One of the best.

He deserves credit for getting two Cups, but Cups are a team effort and the Kings had a great team.

You can be an amazing player and still not win Cups. Stamkos is a really special talent.

My list is still

1. Stamkos
2. Doughty
3. Holtby

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Doughty has two Stanley Cup rings to prove his worth at number 1 on the list.

Hockey: The only sport where its a team game unless you win championships.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by bax

Maximizing your draft is about taking players that you're confident in as late as possible. If the scouts were comfortable that Brodie would most likely be on the board in the 4th round then why use an earlier pick? Use the earlier pick on a guy who you like and know won't be around later.

Very few drafted players turn into NHL'ers let alone impact NHL'ers. You can look at any team's draft history and pick it apart with hindsight.

Exactly.

Any Flames' fan over the last few seasons who follow the draft should have realized by now that teams try and see which other teams are looking at certain prospects the Flames are interested in. The whole 'Gaudreau and Kucherov being on a different list' type of thing.

Also, FWIW (and IIRC), it was Webster that scouted Brodie and pushed for him, and the Flames did select him when they felt they couldn't wait any longer or risk losing him. Webster was very confident Brodie had a very good chance of turning into an NHL'er.

As for the list, only reason Myers should be ahead of Brodie is probably because he is still living off the 'Rookie of the year" hype.

[Crumpy-Gunt]

Stamkos
Karlsson
Doughty

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Young_Guns

I would have it

1. Karlsson
2. Stamkos
3. Doughty

If you are writing this from the other side of a mirror then yes I agree.

[Coach]

Doughty, Holtby, Stamkos.

[Magnum PEI]

Karlsson and Doughty likely end up being considered alltime greats at their position when all is said and done, not sure Stamkos will.

[TheFlamesVan]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

Karlsson and Doughty likely end up being considered alltime greats at their position when all is said and done, not sure Stamkos will.

Okay come on now.... he's 26 and has 320 goals. If he averages 20 a year for the next decade (which he will surpass) he's easily into the 500 mark. All three are great players.