09-30-2016, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Par
What I am saying is that Ristolainen, is from Finland, no, I do not think that Ristolainen, has anything agianst Russia.
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Well...the Finns do historically carry something of a grudge against the Russians.
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09-30-2016, 02:10 PM
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#22
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli
You implied he's not a good teammate because he's not willing to endanger his future earning ability by attending camp without a contract
You know what you did, now go sit in that corner --->
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I did not say that he is bad teammate, I just said that I wish Johnny would do the same, how is that saying that he is a bad teammate. He did go to the World Cup without a contract and he did say that during the World Cup, that contract talks, will be put on hold during the World Cup, when he could have just said, my agent and the Flames will talk contract, while I play in the World Cup, so he isn't exactly a good mate either.
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09-30-2016, 02:13 PM
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#23
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Acerbic Cyberbully
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Originally Posted by Locke
Well...the Finns do historically carry something of a grudge against the Russians.
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Did you know that you can see Estonia from Helsinki?
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09-30-2016, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Par
I did not say that he is bad teammate, I just said that I wish Johnny would do the same, how is that saying that he is a bad teammate. He did go to the World Cup without a contract and he did say that during the World Cup, that contract talks, will be put on hold during the World Cup, when he could have just said, my agent and the Flames will talk contract, while I play in the World Cup, so he isn't exactly a good mate either.
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And how do you know this is Johnny's decision?
In fact Treliving mentioned that nobody is coming to camp without a contract. So it's actually Treliving who is keeping your precious Johnny from participating at camp.
Why are you trying to start more Johnny drama? Enough is enough, this is getting pathetic.
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09-30-2016, 02:26 PM
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How long until all Flames fans turn on Johnny?
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09-30-2016, 02:28 PM
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Would any of us go to work without a contract? It seems pretty simple to me, no contract, no work or services provided.
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09-30-2016, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkGio
How long until all Flames fans turn on Johnny?
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December 1 if no contract or as soon as he requests a trade
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09-30-2016, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by spuzzum
Would any of us go to work without a contract? It seems pretty simple to me, no contract, no work or services provided.
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No, that's not a reasonable position. I think it's far more obvious that Johnny not only doesn't care about the Flames organization, but that he's secretly plotting against them since being drafted and is now trying to sabatoge their season.
Not just speculative, but blatantly obvious
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09-30-2016, 02:32 PM
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#29
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Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by MarkGio
How long until all Flames fans turn on Johnny?
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He hasnt done anything wrong. Why would we turn on him?
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09-30-2016, 02:36 PM
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Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Locke
He hasnt done anything wrong. Why would we turn on him?
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Logic and circumstance doesn't matter to some. All they see is a guy not a camp because of money, and thus, not a team player, while forgetting all the other factors involved.
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09-30-2016, 02:40 PM
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Don't click that link!
Join Date: Apr 2006
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With silky smooth moves Johnny has been turning us on for a couple of years it's time we turn him on.... on him.... what are we talking about?
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09-30-2016, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyC
Logic and circumstance doesn't matter to some. All they see is a guy not a camp because of money, and thus, not a team player, while forgetting all the other factors involved.
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Fair enough, if he holds out and legit holds out deep into the season then I'd re-evaluate my opinion based on the perceived gulf of difference between the two parties.
I still think this gets done, the Flames call the World Cup 'Johnny's Training Camp' and he hits the ground running without missing a beat.
If that isnt the case then we re-evaluate.
In the meantime, I'm sharpening my pitchforks and dousing my rags in gas. Just in case.
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09-30-2016, 02:46 PM
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Location: Vancouver
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I totally agree. If there is a hold out, I'll probably be upset. Until this goes one way or the other, I don't see a reason to feel anything about it at all.
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09-30-2016, 02:57 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Machiavelli
You implied he's not a good teammate because he's not willing to endanger his future earning ability by attending camp without a contract
You know what you did, now go sit in that corner --->
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But that's all the way on the other side of the screen! 
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09-30-2016, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyC
Logic and circumstance doesn't matter to some. All they see is a guy not a camp because of money, and thus, not a team player, while forgetting all the other factors involved.
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Not to mention that Johnny also refused to negotiate during the past few weeks of the WCH. Plus he's not a camp while other players without a contract are.
Plus they saw that Monahan signed for a reasonable contract .
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09-30-2016, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkGio
Not to mention that Johnny also refused to negotiate during the past few weeks of the WCH. Plus he's not a camp while other players without a contract are.
Plus they saw that Monahan signed for a reasonable contract .
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Again, Treliving is not allowing Johnny to attend camp without a contract.
Do you ignore posts that don't follow your narrative? Or do you just not read? It's one of the two.
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