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Old 09-28-2016, 08:10 PM   #21
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We gave him pp time last year and got one of the worst pp of the NHL.
And the year prior he was a key to their success. It's a 50/50 chance he goes either way this year. If he doesn't help out like he did two seasons ago, he loses his PP time and eventually gets moved at the deadline.
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Old 09-28-2016, 08:21 PM   #22
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And the year prior he was a key to their success. It's a 50/50 chance he goes either way this year. If he doesn't help out like he did two seasons ago, he loses his PP time and eventually gets moved at the deadline.
Not just that, but the PP was only terrible to start the season last year, from December on (maybe it was Xmas on) it was a top 10 PP. It was just so terrible to start there was no way fully recover.
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Old 09-28-2016, 08:23 PM   #23
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I bet he has a bounce back year defensively and you get 40 points out of him.
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Wideman isn't a terrible defenseman. He is serviceable but overpaid and given far too much ice time under Hartley. I would hope the new coaching staff will put him in better situations to succeed. If he has a solid season the Flames can trade him at the deadline or keep him if they are trying to lock up a playoff spot. Either way this is his last season with the team so fans just have to accept he's here for one more season.
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Old 09-28-2016, 08:50 PM   #25
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I bet he has a bounce back year defensively and you get 40 points out of him.
I will take that bet.
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Old 09-28-2016, 08:54 PM   #26
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I will take that bet.
How about you take my bet?
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Old 09-28-2016, 08:55 PM   #27
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How about you take my bet?
How about you take my bet?

Wait, what was your bet?
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Old 09-28-2016, 09:15 PM   #28
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I'm confused, what's the point of buying out an expiring contract now? Unless there is a deal in place that requires the cap space there is 0 point.
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Old 09-28-2016, 09:26 PM   #29
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Summer buy out period has long since passed, this is his final year. Bite the bullet until July 1st, that's it that's all.
Perhaps we could hire Lombardi. He'd get this contract off the books.
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If you had a time machine, would you travel back in time and:

A) Kill Hitler as a baby
B) Buyout Wideman during this off-season's buyout window
C) Not sign Wideman as a UFA in the first place
D) Do all of the above and more, it's a time machine
E) Trade him after the 14/15 season. Hudler too. And Bouma while we're at it.
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If you had a time machine, would you travel back in time and:

A) Kill Hitler as a baby
B) Buyout Wideman during this off-season's buyout window
C) Not sign Wideman as a UFA in the first place
D) Do all of the above and more, it's a time machine
Sure, everyone says they'd kill Hitler but no one mentions what an orator he was, and the worry of being put under by his silver-tongue. I mean you could end up joining!
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Old 09-29-2016, 04:39 AM   #32
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Injuries happen. someone will want him if he produces even 60% of his 2015 numbers, give him lots of PP and offensive zone starts and maybe we'll get a nice christmas present.
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Old 09-29-2016, 10:46 AM   #33
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Do the Flames need Wideman available for the Las Vegas "dispersal" draft? They need enough guy(s) made available with enough experience to qualify to be made available.
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Old 09-29-2016, 11:19 AM   #34
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Watching him so far I have to agree his skating has taken another step back. He was too slow last year but made up for it with good positioning but it seems like this year he can't make up for it. He is going to be behind the play a lot.
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Old 09-29-2016, 11:25 AM   #35
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I've got Wideman having a successful year with split duties on PP/line 2/line 3.

He will seem slightly overpaid for his role, but this guy is a skilled vet and should be able to come back.
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Old 09-29-2016, 09:10 PM   #36
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Are there any players that are on ltir on an expiring deal that we could do a deal with? Apart from Robidas? That might be an option to move wideman and open up cap space. Acquiring team gets a player that helps them vs dead cap space. We get maybe get a conditional pick depending on how well he does and open up ltir space.

Probably a stretch but one way to open up space creatively.
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Old 09-29-2016, 10:44 PM   #37
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My bet is that Wideman is on the roster until the TDL.

He will have a decent season playing on the 2nd pairing and PP.

63 Games
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23 Assists
31 Points

The Flames will receive a 2nd and a 3rd round draft pick for him.
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Old 09-30-2016, 08:48 AM   #38
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No point in buying him out (which can no longer happen anyways).

In the perfect scenario, he plays bottom pairing minutes, gets PP time if he shows good offensive instincts, and is on pace for a 30-40pts season. Flip him at the dead line for another Treliving classic trade.

Done.
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Old 09-30-2016, 08:59 AM   #39
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Sure, everyone says they'd kill Hitler but no one mentions what an orator he was, and the worry of being put under by his silver-tongue. I mean you could end up joining!

I don't speak German, so he had better be a damn fine orator for me to join.
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