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GP_Matt · 08-26-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

Why would anyone move their fence a foot into there own property just because the neighbors aren't paying for it? Neither of my neighbors paid their share so I made my yard as big as possible...a foot or more on either side. Plus the bobcats digging the holes did so entirely on their grass.

When you do that, it is entirely within the neighbours right to tear down the fence and likely go after you for the cost of the whole endeavor as well as any damage.

Fences are great when they are shared by both neighbours but if the neighbour doesn't want a fence or doesn't want to pay for it your only option is to put the fence on your property.

OMG!WTF! · 08-26-2016, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

That'll show up awesome on your real property report when you go to sell it. Pretty sure your neighbours can rip that #### down and you can't say boo.

To the OP: I'm with Cap'n. Start reporting auspicious activity that sounds like organized dog fighting, drug manufacturing, human trafficking etc

No not at all. There is at least a foot of leeway on all property lines. Fences are never exactly on the property line. And why would someone tear down a free fence?

Actually not paying for your half of a fence is the dbag move. Bobcats have to drive somewhere.

troutman · 08-26-2016, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

No not at all. There is at least a foot of leeway on all property lines. Fences are never exactly on the property line. And why would someone tear down a free fence?

Because it will show as an encroachment on an RPR, and any potential buyer will force the seller to remove it.

FlamesAddiction · 08-26-2016, 09:53 AM

Just be a terrible neighbour until they break down and build their own fence.

Then you get a free fence!

calumniate · 08-26-2016, 09:53 AM

If they're not busy and happen to be driving to the states, maybe they could pick up some materials down there and save some money!

OMG!WTF! · 08-26-2016, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by troutman

Because it will show as an encroachment on an RPR, and any potential buyer will force the seller to remove it.

I'm curious about that now. I get encroachments. But the house sold no problem. And it has sold again since. The rpr had the fence on the other side of the property line. Everything I was told was that no fence is exactly on any property line so you get some give and take. The builder I used was very experienced and guaranteed the placement as well as the work. Anyway...it's more of a gear grinder when people don't pay their share.

Fuzz · 08-26-2016, 09:59 AM

My fence is about 40cm inside my property line, but angles to about 10cm at the alley. I'm moving it this fall. It's chain link so won't be to hard to do. Why? Well they planted raspberries against it, which is where I already had my veggie garden. Their raspberries are invading like Russia into Crimea. So I want to move the fence so I can put a barrier in between my garden and the property line. I'm on good terms with them, spoke briefly and they had no problem at all with the plan. They will move their little greenhouse to make room for the project.

The funny part is I only really found out about this last summer when they built a big shed, and we both had out property reports out to make sure the shed was far enough from the property line. So they started it!

TLDR; good relations make things go easy.

troutman · 08-26-2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

I'm curious about that now. I get encroachments. But the house sold no problem. And it has sold again since. The rpr had the fence on the other side of the property line. Everything I was told was that no fence is exactly on any property line so you get some give and take. The builder I used was very experienced and guaranteed the placement as well as the work. Anyway...it's more of a gear grinder when people don't pay their share.

It really depends on the size of the encroachment. Probably no one would get excited by a few mms, but a full 30 cm is another story.

CedarMeter · 08-26-2016, 10:35 AM

I had this problem before. They wouldn't pay. I just let my friends kids go nuts with spray paint on their side of the fence. He was a real A hole.

Canehdianman · 08-26-2016, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

Why would anyone move their fence a foot into there own property just because the neighbors aren't paying for it? Neither of my neighbors paid their share so I made my yard as big as possible...a foot or more on either side. Plus the bobcats digging the holes did so entirely on their grass.

Gonna suck when they look at the RPR and you have to tear it down.

Hevishot · 08-26-2016, 10:51 AM

Go to UFA spend 100 bucks and grab some fancy orange snow fence and stick that up. He will probably get sick of looking at it in about a week and will be ready to pony up for a real fence.

OMG!WTF! · 08-26-2016, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Canehdianman

Gonna suck when they look at the RPR and you have to tear it down.

I sold the house, held the mortgage, then the buyer sold it again last year. Fences aren't like garages or sheds. The point is, there is absolutely no reason to build a fence a foot into your own property just because your neighbor isn't paying for it. You've got lee way.

Canehdianman · 08-26-2016, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

I sold the house, held the mortgage, then the buyer sold it again last year. Fences aren't like garages or sheds. The point is, there is absolutely no reason to build a fence a foot into your own property just because your neighbor isn't paying for it. You've got lee way.

Yes, you can build it one inch inside your property line. BR you can't built it on the line, or on their side.

GreenLantern · 08-26-2016, 11:11 AM

My neighbours have both been good about the fence, I did all the work and they paid their half. We hit the surveyors pin on the one side so I knew I was bang on, but I didn't see it on the other side so maybe we are out a bit there. I went a bit my way with the posts beside the house because I figured I would rather be out on my side than their side and have it come up if new neighbours move in.

Honestly though if you can't get an answer out of them it is most likely a no, build the fence but don't expect to see any cash. Give them the option to pay you whatever they can afford, even a few hundred bucks.

FakenHaken · 08-26-2016, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by troutman

Because it will show as an encroachment on an RPR, and any potential buyer will force the seller to remove it.

Just curious if I can have the RPR changed. The scenerio was my elderly neighbor who goes out of his way to help me out ended up purchasing a 5th wheel which was too big to park completely on his RV drive pad. I saw this as an opportunity to try and repay the guy because he truly is a great neighbor. I told him to simply knock down the fence that he needs to and build it out into my yard (I'd estimate 1-2meters) which I wasn't using anyways. In truth I've got a very large pie lot and it saves me from mowing even more lawn which I do for about an hour anyways. I'd just like to get the property lines changed if possible and I'd pay for that just to again try to repay the countless favors he has done for me.

troutman · 08-26-2016, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FakenHaken

Just curious if I can have the RPR changed. The scenerio was my elderly neighbor who goes out of his way to help me out ended up purchasing a 5th wheel which was too big to park completely on his RV drive pad. I saw this as an opportunity to try and repay the guy because he truly is a great neighbor. I told him to simply knock down the fence that he needs to and build it out into my yard (I'd estimate 1-2meters) which I wasn't using anyways. In truth I've got a very large pie lot and it saves me from mowing even more lawn which I do for about an hour anyways. I'd just like to get the property lines changed if possible and I'd pay for that just to again try to repay the countless favors he has done for me.

You could enter into an Encroachment Agreement with the neighbor, that would be registered and run on with the property in the future.

automaton 3 · 08-26-2016, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

I'm curious about that now. I get encroachments. But the house sold no problem. And it has sold again since. The rpr had the fence on the other side of the property line. Everything I was told was that no fence is exactly on any property line so you get some give and take. The builder I used was very experienced and guaranteed the placement as well as the work. Anyway...it's more of a gear grinder when people don't pay their share.

Might not be exact but the vast majority are at least very close to the property line. Consider yourself fortunate it didn't cause any problems for you.

When one of the neighbors decide to sell and updates their RPR, they might want their 1 ft of yard back.

Reaper · 08-26-2016, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigNumbers

I want to get a fence done before it snows but not sure if I can do much but just pay it all myself!

FYI, both landowners must be in agreement for a property line fence otherwise you have to build it entirely within your property. If you have to build it entirely within your property I recommend a bright colour on the outside to remind your neighbours that they should have contributed.

Reaper · 08-26-2016, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

No not at all. There is at least a foot of leeway on all property lines. Fences are never exactly on the property line. And why would someone tear down a free fence?

Actually not paying for your half of a fence is the dbag move. Bobcats have to drive somewhere.

Crazy that all of mine are exactly where the property line is and all the distances from foundation to foundation are exactly what the plans show.

I think building a fence on someone else's property is the dbag move. They would be well within their legal rights to have it removed and bill you for the time and effort.

freakinsaprikin · 08-26-2016, 03:04 PM

We built a fence last year and talked to both neighbours. We needed for our dogs, so were more expecting to cover the entire cost.

Neighbours on the one side paid right away. The other side were doing a bunch of renovations and expecting their fourth child. We didn't end up seeing any money from them, but were okay with that.

Neighbours on both sides are good though and hasn't caused any issues.

Also make sure you call and have them check for utility before you or the contractor dig the post holes. We ended paying a lot more for the holes on the neighbour who didn't pays side because the gas and power ran right down the property line. We had to hire a hydro vac to dig the holes.