08-23-2016, 02:44 PM
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Almost everyone has Vancouver in last. Unfortunately for them, I don't think they're bad enough for that yet. They'll wallow in 5th-8th overall pick territory until the Sedins retire probably.
CENTRAL
1. Dallas
2. Chicago
3. St Louis
PACIFIC
1. Anaheim
2. LA
3. San Jose
WC1. Nashville
WC2. Winnipeg
9. Calgary
10. Edmonton
11. Vancouver
12. Minnesota
13. Colorado
14. Arizona
Trying to be objective... I think Calgary might grab a Wild Card spot and it's about as likely as the Jets getting in.
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08-23-2016, 02:45 PM
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#22
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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I want to go on record to say that I think SJ is a good bet to miss the playoffs this year. They benefitted tremendously from a boost that often accompanies both a coaching change and the addition of a new goalie. On top of that I am dubious about how well their collection of aging players will hold up to the rigours of a full season after having played hockey into June, and starting up again in September.
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08-23-2016, 02:48 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I want to go on record to say that I think SJ is a good bet to miss the playoffs this year. They benefitted tremendously from a boost that often accompanies both a coaching change and the addition of a new goalie. On top of that I am dubious about how well their collection of aging players will hold up to the rigours of a full season after having played hockey into June, and starting up again in September.
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This is mostly fair to say, and you might be right about the finals hangover in the end, but the goalie they got is in fact really good. And it's hard to bet against a team with that much center depth if they need it - they've got Pavelski playing wing, after all. Not to mention two excellent, top pairing quality defensemen in Burns and Vlasic. Thornton still looked great to the very end. I'd be surprised if they missed.
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08-23-2016, 02:48 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Almost everyone has Vancouver in last. Unfortunately for them, I don't think they're bad enough for that yet. They'll wallow in 5th-8th overall pick territory until the Sedins retire probably.
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Vancouver finished ahead of only Edmonton last year, and they don't look to have improved much in the off-season. This is why almost everyone has them finishing last this year.
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08-23-2016, 02:51 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Central
1) Nashville (105pts)
2) Dallas (103 pts)
3) Chicago (101 pts)
Pacific
1) Calgary (101 pts)
2) San Jose (101 pts)
3) Anaheim (97 pts)
WC1) Edmonton (94 pts)
WC2) Colorado (93 pts)
Out:
9) St. Louis (91pts) - Losing Backes and Elliott is not insignificant. Transitional year for them as kids like Fabbri and Parayko improve. They'll be back within a year.
10) L.A. (91pts) - Losing Lucic returns them to that 2014-15 team that just couldn't score
11) Vancouver (86 pts) - I think the Sedins + solid goaltending + Tanev/Edler are enough to keep them in the mix. Horvat should be better. Just too much inexperience overall though.
12) Minnesota (84 pts). Treadmill.
13) Winnipeg (84 pts). Where they usually are.
14) Arizona (76 pts). Too inexperienced, but a ton of upside long term. Might be the end of Tippet's tenure.
Last edited by GranteedEV; 08-23-2016 at 02:55 PM.
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08-23-2016, 02:56 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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08-23-2016, 03:02 PM
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I believe in the Jays.
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CENTRAL
1. Chicago
2. Dallas
3. St Louis
PACIFIC
1. San Jose
2. LA
3. Anaheim
WC1. Nashville
WC2. Calgary
9. Winnipeg
10. Edmonton
11. Colorado
12. Minnesota
13. Vancouver
14. Arizona
Trying to be objective here. I reserve the right to knock the Aves up or down down depending on head coach hire.
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08-24-2016, 12:27 PM
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#28
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First Line Centre
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Pacific
Anaheim
San Jose
Calgary
Central
Dallas
St Louis
Chicago
WC
Winnipeg
Nashville/LA
Was tempted to move San Jose out actually. Thorton, Pavelski, Jones, and Burns all come down to earth.
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08-24-2016, 12:39 PM
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#29
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Pacific
San Jose Sharks
LA Kings
Calgary Flames
Central
Dallas Stars
Chicago Blackhawks
St. Louis Blues
Wild Card
Nashville Predators
Winnipeg Jets
9. Anaheim Ducks
10. Minnesota Wild
11. Edmonton Oilers
12. Colorado Avalanche
13. Vancouver Canucks
14. Arizona Coyotes
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08-24-2016, 12:41 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I want to go on record to say that I think SJ is a good bet to miss the playoffs this year. They benefitted tremendously from a boost that often accompanies both a coaching change and the addition of a new goalie. On top of that I am dubious about how well their collection of aging players will hold up to the rigours of a full season after having played hockey into June, and starting up again in September.
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You also have some of the older players playing in the World Cup, that's a pretty taxing season for anyone. I wonder how much of an effect it would really have on the players.
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08-24-2016, 01:11 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Otto-matic
You also have some of the older players playing in the World Cup...
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Which is precisely why I stated that they would be starting up again in September. This is exactly right. SJ looks like it is entering the season in a perfect storm for them to fall back.
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08-24-2016, 01:15 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: ...the bench
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CENTRAL
1. Dallas
2. Nashville
3. Chicago
PACIFIC
1. Anaheim
2. Calgary
3. SJ
WC1. LA
WC2. St Louis
9. Minnesota
10. Winnipeg
11. Edmonton
12. Colorado
13. Phoenix
14. Vancouver
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08-24-2016, 01:25 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary
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CENTRAL
1. Who cares?
2. Who cares?
3. Who cares?
PACIFIC
1. Calgary Flames
2. Who cares?
3. Who cares?
WC1. Who cares?
WC2. Who cares?
9. Who cares?
10. Who cares?
11. Who cares?
12. Winnipeg
13. Vancouver
14. Edmonton
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08-24-2016, 02:24 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Which is precisely why I stated that they would be starting up again in September. This is exactly right. SJ looks like it is entering the season in a perfect storm for them to fall back.
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I'm just hoping this doesn't burn out Mony and Johnny for the late season push for the Flames, World cup could really hinder some teams this year by adding an extra month to the season for some players.
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08-24-2016, 02:28 PM
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#35
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Otto-matic
I'm just hoping this doesn't burn out Mony and Johnny for the late season push for the Flames, World cup could really hinder some teams this year by adding an extra month to the season for some players.
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After having two and three full seasons of hockey to their credit I don't think this is of any real concern. Younger players all benefit from having better endurance and lower recovery time.
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08-24-2016, 09:12 PM
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#36
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Central
1) Nashville (105pts)
2) Dallas (103 pts)
3) Chicago (101 pts)
Pacific
1) Calgary (101 pts)
2) San Jose (101 pts)
3) Anaheim (97 pts)
WC1) Edmonton (94 pts)
WC2) Colorado (93 pts)
Out:
9) St. Louis (91pts) - Losing Backes and Elliott is not insignificant. Transitional year for them as kids like Fabbri and Parayko improve. They'll be back within a year.
10) L.A. (91pts) - Losing Lucic returns them to that 2014-15 team that just couldn't score
11) Vancouver (86 pts) - I think the Sedins + solid goaltending + Tanev/Edler are enough to keep them in the mix. Horvat should be better. Just too much inexperience overall though.
12) Minnesota (84 pts). Treadmill.
13) Winnipeg (84 pts). Where they usually are.
14) Arizona (76 pts). Too inexperienced, but a ton of upside long term. Might be the end of Tippet's tenure.
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Edmonton in the playoffs? Keep drinking.
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