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GirlySports · 07-22-2016, 11:34 AM

NBA too.. finals two years in row were Golden State vs Cleveland! The final four this year was Golden State, OKC, Cleveland and Toronto!

But it has star power.

The NHL does a decent job promoting it's stars and the game on NHL.com but where it really counts on NBC they are nowhere to be found.

Toonage · 07-22-2016, 11:38 AM

Someone with a better knowledge of their ratings/shares can probably clear this up but I suspect because NBC Sports Network is a fledgling network with few viewers they are trying to attract as many eyeballs as possible. I suppose the same could be said for the NBC Network itself too.

Resolute 14 · 07-22-2016, 01:24 PM

^not really. Common wisdom in the US is that the big market teams draw the most viewers. MLB, NBA, NFL all feature a regular rotation of the largest market teams as well. MLB coverage on Fox and ESPN is even more extreme than NHL coverage on NBC.

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gotta sacrifice that sometimes though for the greater long term. Have Gaudreau, McDavid and Matthews play the big American teams.

Ok not on NBC right away but to not even feature them on NBCSN just because they don't play for a big team is crazy.

NBC Sports has a mandate to earn a profit on the investment made. "Sacrificing" is not in the equation, and it never will be.

GirlySports · 07-22-2016, 01:30 PM

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NBC Sports has a mandate to earn a profit on the investment made. "Sacrificing" is not in the equation, and it never will be.

They can earn more profit in the long term by sacrificing the short term. A complete NHL product. At least the other sports have a rotation. Yes the Yankees will be shown 20 times and the Diamondbacks once. But if the Diamondbacks get good it'll increase to maybe 10. Still not 20

But the Oilers get shown 0 times and even if they win 4 cups in a row they still will be shown 0 times. There are no building blocks.

Resolute 14 · 07-22-2016, 02:11 PM

The Sunday Night Baseball schedule from Opening Day until July 31 had the KC Royals appearing exactly once: Opening Day when they got their rings. So no, I don't believe your claim that success in a small market will result in more national TV appearances.

Also, you simply can't ignore the fact that teams like the Oilers are not American. They will never be anything but a null draw in the US, no matter how badly you want NBC to sacrifice for no reason. It makes no financial sense to show them today, and it won't make financial sense to show them five years from now, even if they did show them today.

Joborule · 07-23-2016, 11:09 AM

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The Sunday Night Baseball schedule from Opening Day until July 31 had the KC Royals appearing exactly once: Opening Day when they got their rings. So no, I don't believe your claim that success in a small market will result in more national TV appearances.

Also, you simply can't ignore the fact that teams like the Oilers are not American. They will never be anything but a null draw in the US, no matter how badly you want NBC to sacrifice for no reason. It makes no financial sense to show them today, and it won't make financial sense to show them five years from now, even if they did show them today.

The argument though is to promote the game through the star players so then it'll add more diversity to the product. In doing so, the question then is will it actually draw more viewers than showing the same teams constantly?

Girly mentioned that the NFL and NBA do this, and those are two of the biggest draws in North American sports. What makes it work for them, and not MLB and NHL according to exec.? Perhaps I'm answering my own question here, but football and basketball is structured where the star players have numerous opportunities to make plays that get attention, whereas hockey and baseball, the game isn't made as such. A star player having a bad game could mean they could be completely irrelevant and invisible, whereas in the NFL and NBA, the player having a bad game would still be noticeable; but not in a good way.

Resolute 14 · 07-23-2016, 12:36 PM

Sure, but why promote a star on a Canadian team nobody in the US cares about when they could instead promote a star on an American team that some Americans would care about?

The NFL is not comparable to the other sports for reasons that should be painfully obvious.

As far as the NBA goes, basketball is more popular in the US, so gets more national coverage - nearly 50% more games means all teams get more coverage. However, the schedule is Just as lopsided as the NHL tv schedule is: The Warriors were shown nationally about 30 times last season. The Cavs about 26. Spurs 24. Timberwolves 5. Suns 5. Most relevant to this discussion: Raptors 2.

activeStick · 07-23-2016, 04:59 PM

Yeah, sports fans largely resonate with teams and not individuals. Boosting guys like Johnny and McDavid won't likely have much of a difference. Canadians are the most passionate about the sport and I don't think anyone follows the Avs or Iginla who was the face of the franchise for so many years.

GirlySports · 07-23-2016, 06:01 PM

Raptors 2 is still more than the future 5 times stanley cup champion Flames will ever get

Its not even the lack of Canadian teams that bothers me. San Jose. Tampa, Anaheim and Nashville never get on. What the point of expanding to the sunbelt and never showing them?

Subban in Nashville is an exciting guy they could show.

activeStick · 07-23-2016, 06:52 PM

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Raptors 2 is still more than the future 5 times stanley cup champion Flames will ever get

Its not even the lack of Canadian teams that bothers me. San Jose. Tampa, Anaheim and Nashville never get on. What the point of expanding to the sunbelt and never showing them?

Subban in Nashville is an exciting guy they could show.

Isn't California a relatively good hockey market now? I remember reading this and if that's the case, probably better to target areas that need the growth more.

Resolute 14 · 07-23-2016, 08:15 PM

Failing to take advantage of Subban in Nashville is a criminal error, I agree.

But for NBC, it isn't about "targeting markets" for growth. NBC has a two billion dollar investment it wants to earn a positive return on. That means pushing the teams and match-ups that draw the most viewers nationally.

The RSNs are the ones on the hook to grow their local markets.

Tsawwassen · 10-14-2016, 03:45 AM

Not even a week into the season and NBCSN is adding a game to its schedule. The Auston Matthews craze from the Leafs 1st game was enough for NBCSN to televise this Saturday's Bruins at Leafs game.

http://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/2016/10/13/programming-alert-nbcsn-to-televise-auston-matthews-home-debut-with-toronto-maple-leafs-vs-boston-bruins-this-saturday-oct-15-at-7-p-m-et/

CroFlames · 10-14-2016, 06:45 AM

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Not even a week into the season and NBCSN is adding a game to its schedule. The Auston Matthews craze from the Leafs 1st game was enough for NBCSN to televise this Saturday's Bruins at Leafs game.

http://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/2016/10/13/programming-alert-nbcsn-to-televise-auston-matthews-home-debut-with-toronto-maple-leafs-vs-boston-bruins-this-saturday-oct-15-at-7-p-m-et/

Would be a missed opportunity not to.

GirlySports · 10-14-2016, 09:24 AM

he'll get 0 goals

that's just the luck of the NHL.

OmegaV4 · 10-14-2016, 10:51 AM

Man, would love to hear Doc call a Flames game...

Wishful thinking I suppose.

hwy19man · 11-29-2016, 07:38 PM

American viewers will see the Leafs-Oilers game joined in progress on NBCSN after the Bruins-Flyers game ends. The NBCSN simulcast will have the TSN commentators of Gord Miller and Ray Ferraro.

hwy19man · 11-29-2016, 07:46 PM

Here is the press release, http://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/20...uesday-nov-29/

hwy19man · 01-13-2017, 11:57 PM

The NFL playoff game on NBC, Steelers at Chiefs, has had its starting time delayed by 7.25 hours due to a major storm being being forecast in the Kansas City area. The game will now be at 1820h Mountain time. The good news for hockey fans is that to fill in the air time, the Capitals at Flyers game has been promoted to a national game on NBC! The hockey game will be at 1100h Mountain time.

http://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/20...to-820-p-m-et/
http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washin...ff-game-change

hwy19man · 04-04-2017, 03:50 PM

The last week of the regular season is upon us and NBCSN has been adding and changing games to its schedule.

Tuesday, April 4 Blackhawks at Avalanche game is now a regional game. NBCSN will now have a doubleheader! Lightning at Bruins (blacked out in Boston) followed by Oilers at Kings.

Thursday, April 6 Predators at Stars game is now a regional game. NBCSN will now have a doubleheader! Senators at Bruins (blacked out in Boston) followed by Blackhawks at Ducks (blacked out in Chicago).

Friday, April 7 Lighting at Canadiens has been added

Saturday, April 8 Capitals at Bruins has been selected on NBC

hwy19man · 04-06-2017, 04:33 PM

The press release for the playoff coverage that the NBC network of channels will be showing and other information.

http://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/2017/04/06/theres-nothing-like-playoff-hockey-nbc-sports-group-to-present-every-stanley-cup-playoff-game-for-sixth-consecutive-season/