3 Officers Dead, 3 Injured; 1 Suspect Dead - Baton Rouge, Louisiana

[underGRADFlame]

Some of the reports from the scene, there are reports of a "sniper". They just aired the audio from dispatch, the officers don't even know where the shots are coming from.

Sounds to me like a directed attack at police and law enforcement, not a interrupted drug deal or the like.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I think it's highly simplistic, and does viewers and the public a disservice. I'm trying to keep up with what's going on here and half of what I see is basically accusing BLM of being a terrorist organization when there's nothing linking them to this.

Where precisely is this story being reported like this?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

This doesn't make it likely at all. They're cops, being involved in shooting incidents is part of their job. There are dozens of other possible explanations as to how police could be shot. Seems pretty irresponsible to jump to that conclusion.

In light of recent events, including one that specifically targeted police officers because of what happened in very area this incident occurred....it is not irresponsible to speculate that there is a connection between them.

You can be outraged about that all you like....but this looks like an ambush to shoot policeman from ANY discerning viewpoint. If it turns out to be something else, there is no injustice in believing it was intentional to begin with

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

The link is being implied in basically all news coverage. The reaction from the public is as above. Which isn't terribly surprising. If you draw the connection, the viewers will run with it.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

The link is being implied in basically all news coverage. The reaction from the public is as above. Which isn't terribly surprising. If you draw the connection, the viewers will run with it.

So nowhere. Just in your head. OK.
Again, the media is providing context. As they should.
Show one example of the media doing what you are accusing them of.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

The link is being implied in basically all news coverage. The reaction from the public is as above. Which isn't terribly surprising. If you draw the connection, the viewers will run with it.

Really?

Right from CNN's main page..

One suspect is dead, and two others may be at large in the Baton Rouge shooting, the East Baton Rouge sheriff's office said.
-- Six law enforcement officers were shot -- three are dead and three others are injured, Baton Rouge Police Department spokesman Sgt. Don Coppola told CNN.
-- No motive has been identified at this time.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

So nowhere. Just in your head. OK.
Again, the media is providing context. As they should.

We disagree about how the media should cover this. I was clear about my view on why it's irresponsible to draw a link in the service of "providing context" or "just asking the question". It's in every story on this. The implication is unavoidable and, I think, probably wrong.

I could be wrong, of course. New evidence could come out that this was in fact another Dallas. It's just not there yet, and trying to get in front of the facts is a problem with the way media reports on these incidents. It's bad for the public discourse.

Show one example of the media doing what you are accusing them of.

I didn't accuse them of calling BLM a terrorist organization. I said they were reporting as if there was a link there, and that the public has taken that and run with it. Read facebook or reddit, see the thousands of comments taking for granted that this is Dallas all over again. That's not surprising when the media reports in this manner, and in my view, it's irresponsible.

So no, it's not "just in my head", but thanks for the snark... have I been clear enough yet? Do you understand my perspective on this or do I need to repeat it for a third time using different words?

[JiriHrdina]

You said this:
It's being reported on as if that's the case but there's no apparent reason to think so.

Which isn't true. Anyways I'm done.

[oldschoolcalgary]

sounds like the shooting happened a couple of km away from the police HQ... in an gas station... one suspect dead... at least one individual is being sought by police

probably shouldn't speculate too much further until more facts come out

[GirlySports]

we're going to need a police being shot at thread at this rate

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

we're going to need a police being shot at thread at this rate

Unfortunately... think this is way closer to being true than not.

No idea what changes things, but the distrust and outright hatred happening right now, it looks bleak for a long long time.

Cops are going to be on edge like never before which will probably lead to them being over zealous in some instances which will then lead to more protests/reactions whch will lead to......etc. Viscious circle.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Do you understand my perspective on this or do I need to repeat it for a third time using different words?

Everyone gets your perspective, no need for a third thesis/dissertation. They simply disagree with it. Do YOU need that repeating multiple times? Because otherwise, not to put too fine a point on it given your propensity for paragraphs of blather - but shut up.

[afc wimbledon]

Regardless of the motivations of the shooter it's unfair to describe it as Black Lives Matter, there's nothing remotely violent about BLM, it's a political pressure group with a pretty reasonable demand.

If it turns out to be, as seems likely, a guy with a half arsed political axe to grind around the cops murdering people that doesn't make it anything to do with BLM any more than the NDP has any involvement with Pol Pot or Stalin.

[icecube]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Not confirmed but very likely since Baton Rouge was where the Sterling shooting happened a couple weeks ago that helped set off this powder keg of violence we are seeing against cops.

Let's hold our horses here. BLM DOES NOT CONDONE VIOLENCE AGAINST POLICE.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by icecube

Let's hold our horses here. BLM DOES NOT CONDONE VIOLENCE AGAINST POLICE.

Where was that even implied, nevermind stated?

If you are tryng to say that BLM did not organize this or partcipate in it...well yeah no kidding.

Does not mean that this wasn't a targeted attack against police because of recent events and the loss of lives of black men while being dealt with by police.

Its very apparent that BLM itself is about non violent protests, but that doesnt stop those who are capable of these violent outbursts from identifying with them and acting in their own way under the banner of them.

Its pretty easy to expect that once this investigation is complete that the shooter(s) here were conducting this ambush because of the Sterling incident from a couple weeks ago. Isn't it?

[SebC]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

If I was going to bet - and I'm not - this ends up being drug, gang, or otherwise non-political gun violence that led to police intervention in the course of doing their jobs, and went badly.

Maybe I'm being naive, but I suspect that there aren't too many gangs who make a priority of shooting at cops - unlike shooting the other gangs, it's bad for business.

If this was a police intervention gone wrong, then the cops would know what they were intervening in and we'd have information.

Three dead cops isn't an accident. You've got someone who's motivated to do so. Could be a freeman-on-the-land type or something else, but if I was going to bet, I'd take your bet.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Where was that even implied, nevermind stated?

[PepsiFree]

I think when people say "BLM related" they're using a catch-all for "US current race relations and political climate related"

Just because something stems from the current turmoil in the US doesn't mean you just say "Oh, BLM related!"

That's why people are getting defensive over it. It's not related to BLM except for the fact that they are both born from an extremely large and complicated issue called racism.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Fair enough that it comes across like that...though not at all what i was meaning.

Only that i have little doubt that this/these shooters would identify as part of whatever it is that the BLM movement/orginization sees itself being and their desire to see the eradication of racism.

[doctajones428]

This far down the rabbit hole because someone simply asked "BLM related?"

It was a freaking simple yes or no question. What is going on with this forum lately?