[Signing] Jets sign Sheifele to 8 year deal ($6.125 mil AAV)

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

More than Barkov - think Barkov is better overall but Scheifele has produced about the same offensively.

Barkov: 0.62 PPG Career $5.9M Cap Hit
Monahan: 0.67 PPG Career
Scheifele : 0.64 PPG Career $6.125M Cap Hit

Sign up Monahan at $6.25M for 8 years and call it a day. 8 years x $50M is a nice round number anyways.

I dunno, I think 8x50 would be a little much.

[JohnnyT]

Scheifele:

2013/14 63GP 13G 21A 34P 16:21ATOI

2014/15 82GP 15G 34A 49P 18:35ATOI

2015/16 71GP 29G 32A 61P 18:33ATOI

Total 213GP 57G 87A 144P 17:36ATOI

Monahan:

2013/14 75GP 22G 12A 34P 15:59ATOI

2014/15 81GP 31G 31A 62P 19:37ATOI

2015/16 81GP 27G 36A 63P 19:10 ATOI

Total 237GP 80G 79A 159P 18:19 ATOI




FYI Scheifele is already 23, Monahan turns 22 in October

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by JohnnyT

Hero chart

So Monahan should be cheaper based on that HERO. Good.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by JohnnyT

Stats / Hero Chart

Scheifele is a year-and-half older than Monahan which is significant as both guys have needed to work on their skating. Here's how he looked at Monahan's age:

[JohnnyT]

Other notable stats between the two for last year:

• Both players had 13 multi point games last year
• Both players had 7 power play goals, however Monahan had 21 powerplay points to Scheifele's 11
• Monahan had 30 less penalty minutes than Scheifele last year
• Monahan won 363 more faceoffs and took approximately 500 more draws, Monahan's faceoff percentage was 51.02% to Scheifele's 44.24%

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Scheifele is a year-and-half older than Monahan which is significant as both guys have needed to work on their skating. Here's how he looked at Monahan's age:

Agreed, I don't like the Hero chart as a comparison but I figured some people would like to see it. Also think since both teams went from playoff team to bottom 10 from 14/15 to 15/16 that it is more apt to compare year to year

[MrMastodonFarm]

Can we put massive charts/images in spoiler tags?

[Jets4Life]

Excellent! I love it!

[sureLoss]

Paul Friesen @friesensunmedia
Cheveldayoff says Scheifele deal includes ltd no-trade clause (10 teams) in UFA-covered years.

[socalwingfan]

Is there any way to add Hero Charts to your ignore list?

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Scheifele is a year-and-half older than Monahan which is significant as both guys have needed to work on their skating. Here's how he looked at Monahan's age:

In Scheifele's defense he wasn't given the 1st line opportunities that Monahan had at that age. The second half of this year was his 1st real opportunity at 1st line center and he flourished

[sun]

Looks about right.

[djsFlames]

Looking at the comparable contracts I'd say
Monahan 6.3 x 8 (same AAV as MacKinnon)
Gaudreau 6.75 x 8

[PegCityFlamesFan]

But what did Schiefele sign for?

[theinfinitejar]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

In Scheifele's defense he wasn't given the 1st line opportunities that Monahan had at that age. The second half of this year was his 1st real opportunity at 1st line center and he flourished

But in Monahan's defence he's played his whole career for a team that doesn't play any sort of puck possession system at all. I believe HERO charts try to account for this but I'm skeptical that the model translates perfectly from a high-possession team like Winnipeg to a horrible possession team like the Hartley led Flames. I wouldn't be surprised to see his shot generation stats take a jump this year with a more possession focused system.

[Sylvanfan]

These hero charts make every Flames player look terrible. Than again the team has been for 7 of the last 8 years with the one good one being a fluke...

Monahans worth 5 most according to those charts. 3rd line possession guy.