07-08-2016, 10:51 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DoubleF
Between the pipes in California...
Jon
Jon
Jones
John
... Some other guy whose name sounds like Arendale.
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Better keep them away from USADA... And vehicles.
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07-08-2016, 10:51 AM
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#22
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I hadn't realized that. Is Anaheim that good at managing the cap, or just lucky? I don't recall them being much of a UFA player which doesn't seem to have hurt their competitiveness.
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Ducks are a budget team. They don't have the money to make big splashes.
Also helps they blew some of their budget on bad Bieksa and Kesler extensions.
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07-08-2016, 11:37 AM
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#23
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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The curse ends next season. Finally.
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07-08-2016, 11:41 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
The curse ends next season. Finally.
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Bernier is:
.945
1.67
5-1-0
Against the Flames in his career...
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07-08-2016, 11:44 AM
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#25
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Bernier is:
.945
1.67
5-1-0
Against the Flames in his career...
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I didn't ask for your facts or logic! The curse will end! Let me have this! 
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07-08-2016, 12:08 PM
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#26
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Anaheim drafts too well. This curse will never end.
They're cheap, but they draft so well that they easily get away with it. Plus who wouldn't love living in Orange County. They have more good young players wanting to take less money to play there than they can afford to keep.
I expect Bernier will play great for them
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07-08-2016, 12:58 PM
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#27
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Anyone know what the conditions are?
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07-08-2016, 01:04 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by albertGQ
Anyone know what the conditions are?
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Sunny and plus 24c. Feels like 28c.
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07-08-2016, 01:21 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
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BE (Before Elliott) I would have been very happy with the flames picking up Bernier for a conditional pick.
Less salary but more cap hit and had to give up even less than #35 depending on what the conditional draft pick is.
Last year no Goalies available.... This year lots of goalies available.
In Bingo's goalie process neither Bernier nor Elliott was considered as a reasonable viable option.
Last edited by ricardodw; 07-08-2016 at 01:39 PM.
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07-08-2016, 02:21 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Bernier was apparently suppose to be part of the Andersen deal but the Ducks didn't want to pay the bonus. Sorry no link, heard this on the radio.
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07-08-2016, 02:24 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
Bernier was apparently suppose to be part of the Andersen deal but the Ducks didn't want to pay the bonus. Sorry no link, heard this on the radio.
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Actually that makes a lot of sense. Money doesnt matter to the Leafs, but the Ducks have a budget and Bernier was basically worthless.
A conditional pick.
If I were a GM I'd have fun with Conditional Picks.
"If Bernier gains 5 pounds and accrues fewer than 3 speeding tickets during the season its a 7th rounder, if he loses 7.265 pounds and makes 17 poke-checks then its a 7th and a steak dinner!"
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07-09-2016, 05:37 PM
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#32
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Montréal, QC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Actually that makes a lot of sense. Money doesnt matter to the Leafs, but the Ducks have a budget and Bernier was basically worthless.
A conditional pick.
If I were a GM I'd have fun with Conditional Picks.
"If Bernier gains 5 pounds and accrues fewer than 3 speeding tickets during the season its a 7th rounder, if he loses 7.265 pounds and makes 17 poke-checks then its a 7th and a steak dinner!"
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How do you come up with your material?
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07-10-2016, 12:51 AM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Party Elephant
How do you come up with your material?
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Its a gift.
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07-10-2016, 09:39 AM
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#34
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
It'd be hilarious if Bernier outplays Andersson next season.
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I think it's quite plausible...
Bernier's stat line in California (with Kings) just as good, if not more impressive than Andersen's California-induced numbers (with Ducks)...
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"Andersen is far more consistent and shows more promise than Bernier did!"
Wrong.
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See cumulative save% stats:
https://twitter.com/Weirdneal/status/751455156588388352
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07-11-2016, 09:06 PM
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#35
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
So will the Leafs use Sparks as back up, or will they go out and sign Enroth now?
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Matthews.
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07-18-2016, 08:08 AM
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#36
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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conditions now known. Essentially Bernier needs to start half of the playoffs and make it to the cup finals or the Ducks got Bernier for nothing. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/b...bernier-trade/
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The details of the conditional pick weren’t disclosed by either team when the transaction was completed. They are:
— If Bernier starts half of Anaheim’s playoff games next spring and the Ducks win the Stanley Cup, Toronto receives the Ducks’ 2017 second-round pick. (If Anaheim doesn’t still own that selection, it will transfer its next available second-rounder from a future year.)
— If Bernier starts half of Anaheim’s playoff games next spring and the Ducks lose in the Stanley Cup Final, Toronto receives the Ducks’ 2017 third-round pick. (If Anaheim doesn’t still own that selection, it will transfer its next available third-rounder from a future year.)
— Should Anaheim trade Bernier to a team that starts him in half of its playoff games next spring and wins the Stanley Cup, Toronto receives the Ducks’ second-round pick.
— Should Anaheim trade Bernier to a team that starts him in half of its playoff games next spring and loses in the Stanley Cup Final, Toronto receives the Ducks’ third-round pick.
If none of those things happen, the Leafs will receive no tangible return for Bernier beyond the useful cap space the move created.
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Last edited by sureLoss; 07-18-2016 at 08:11 AM.
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07-18-2016, 08:08 AM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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EDIT: lol, why do I even try 
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07-18-2016, 09:49 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Wow, and I thought I was being creative with the conditions on the pick, they literally found a way to trade Bernier for hopes and dreams.
I'm actually a little surprised that the League was cool with that.
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07-18-2016, 11:05 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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In the cap space world you have to consider the cap savings in any deal. If the Flames could trade Wideman for the similar return I would be thrilled.
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07-18-2016, 05:53 PM
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#40
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Wow, and I thought I was being creative with the conditions on the pick, they literally found a way to trade Bernier for hopes and dreams.
I'm actually a little surprised that the League was cool with that.
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I was thinking the same thing, but it is the leafs so it's cool any one else is a Hell No 
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