06-20-2016, 09:01 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Ryan Strome should probably be higher - the guy does have a 50 point NHL season - not sure why he would drop right out of the first round.
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06-20-2016, 09:13 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Agree. Brian Burke pick Tyler Biggs is no good.
Burke moved up 8 spots and Anaheim took Rakell and Gibson
Truculence! Pugnacity!
Ouch.
* at some point, a thorough review of Burke's good and bad moves over his career will be an interesting conversation.
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Burke traded up bigtime to get the Sedins.
Truculence! Pugnacity!
EVERY GM has successes and failures.
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06-20-2016, 09:16 AM
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#23
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
I don't agree with Dougie dropping. If anything I'd bump him up ahead of Gibson and Couturier into 8th. Guy already has two 10+ goal / 40+ point seasons before he turned 23. As a Dman.
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Wouldn't trade Hamilton straight across for Nugent-Hopkins either.
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06-20-2016, 09:16 AM
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#24
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Scoring Winger
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My top 3 would be
1) Gaudreau
2) Kucherov
3) Scheifele
I am not sold on Landeskog being #2 despite having a great start to his career. Huberdeau at #5 and Couturier at #8 are overrated as well
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06-20-2016, 09:21 AM
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#25
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#1 Goaltender
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Crazy to think that the Flames had identified Gaudreau and Kucherov as wild cards
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06-20-2016, 09:32 AM
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#26
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Makes me so happy. Jumping 103 spots? So much win.
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06-20-2016, 09:32 AM
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#27
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Burke traded up bigtime to get the Sedins.
Truculence! Pugnacity!
EVERY GM has successes and failures.
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You don't see the irony that many of Burke's successes and failures do not generally correspond with all of his bluster and talk of valuing black and blue hockey?
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06-20-2016, 09:36 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
You don't see the irony that many of Burke's successes and failures do not generally correspond with all of his bluster and talk of valuing black and blue hockey?
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You do not see that his bluster generally doesn't correspond with his actual behavior?
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06-20-2016, 09:42 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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06-20-2016, 09:45 AM
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#30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
You do not see that his bluster generally doesn't correspond with his actual behavior?
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Huh? Tyler Biggs was a player of the type that Burke likes. Many Toronto moves did correspond quite nicely with his bluster, and were disastrous.
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06-20-2016, 09:46 AM
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#31
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
It's so satisfying to think of Edmonton's degree of failure that year and the amount of spastic e-chest beating Oiler fans did when drafting Nugent-Hopkins at #1 only to have the Flames select the best player in the draft at pick #104.
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Stupid 103 picks
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Originally Posted by MarkGio
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06-20-2016, 09:48 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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Every GM drafts some Tyler Biggs types. And every GM has some failures.
He traded up for the Sedins. He made a big move to get Kessel. And there are plenty of other examples. But whatever, hate away.
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06-20-2016, 09:51 AM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
Crazy to think that the Flames had identified Gaudreau and Kucherov as wild cards
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Even more of a reason to trust Button and his group. I think there is a reason he has made it through three regime changes.
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06-20-2016, 09:53 AM
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#34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Every GM drafts some Tyler Biggs types. And every GM has some failures.
He traded up for the Sedins. He made a big move to get Kessel. And there are plenty of other examples. But whatever, hate away.
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Hate? Ha, wrong.. Sorry you seem to have difficulty understanding. I expect I didn't make myself clear enough
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06-20-2016, 09:56 AM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
Even more of a reason to trust Button and his group. I think there is a reason he has made it through three regime changes.
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Yup, it seems that, when left to his own devices, Button is an excellent talent identifier, and draft projector.
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06-20-2016, 09:57 AM
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#36
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
I actually think it's too early to judge that draft. I think six full seasons post-draft makes more sense. For instance this last year, Kuznetsov who was drafted in 2010, had his breakout season with 77 points. Stephen Johns just had his breakouts towards the very end of the year.
However, I do think Schefele is too low on that one. It'd take him over RNH, Coutourier, Huberdeau, Gibson, Landeskog, and Saad.
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Scheifele is easily top 3 in this draft, #1.) Gaudreau #2.) Scheifle #3.) Landeskog, Scheifele just has so many elements to his game.
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06-20-2016, 10:02 AM
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#37
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by jg13
Sven drops out of the first round |
Great for Johnny and our scouting staff, but this Sven is not a good thing. It means that there is still room for improvement for our scouts in the first round. Sure, one could argue that the Burke and Hartley handling of him probably played a major part of him dropping out of the first round - but mental toughness should be a criteria when we consider who we'd draft.
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06-20-2016, 10:05 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Every GM drafts some Tyler Biggs types. And every GM has some failures.
He traded up for the Sedins. He made a big move to get Kessel. And there are plenty of other examples. But whatever, hate away.
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Yes but let's hope the Hunter Smith type picks don't become a reoccurring thing.
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06-20-2016, 10:08 AM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Button for sure is the guy who gets the credit for identifying Johnny and taking him before others could. But Jay allowing the people he hired to do the job he hired them for rather than interfering in aspects that didn't fall under his expertise, is the mark of a good manager.
Jay made a few big mistakes, but overall, he helped this team in the long term pretty dramatically.
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