Palestinian water supply cut during Ramadan

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by Reaper

You know what? I don't give a rip one way or the other. You want to die on a hill where Israel needs to be absolved of any wrongdoing then you may do so on your own. Neither party has clean hands and the levels of depravity are no longer surprising.

Don't get me wrong, The Israeli government does some pretty shiddy things, but the people themselves know how precious the water is. They don't waste it. That would be cutting your nose off to spite your face.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Still a secular country. How is a Jewish state non secular?

Their a secular state that provides preferential citizenship based on ancestry. Has nothing to do with religion

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by SebC

They produce potable water, pedant.

You can nitpick if you want, but Israel's culture contributes to the power discrepancy that allows them a better quality of life than Palestine.

Nations that have lost wars and accepted that their ideology contributed to their downfall have been able to achieve qualities of life equivalent to their defeaters (e.g. Germany, Japan). Palestine refuses to become like Israel, and that keeps it from getting what Israel has.

We didn't keep Germany or Japan, they kept their land and homes, the only recent equivalent to the Palestinian experience I can think of is native Americans, and funnily enough they ain't doing so good.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

We didn't keep Germany or Japan, they kept their land and homes, the only recent equivalent to the Palestinian experience I can think of is native Americans, and funnily enough they ain't doing so good.

Good analogy. Native Americans (and Canadians) want non-aboriginal outcomes without the non-aboriginal culture that helps create those outcomes.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

They don't produce water, they take it out of the River Jordan, they get first dibs on it, you know, because they're in charge, and they have traditionally used water as a way of forcing Arabs to move, it's particularly useful for shutting down Arab farms.

Israel does produce water. They are one of the world leaders in desalination. Their capacity is expected to reach 70% of it's countries needs:

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/s...emium-1.659949

As for the River Jordan, Israel gets first crack at the water, because the river flows through Israeli territory first. The actual amount Israel takes, however, is strictly controlled by a peace treaty between them and Jordan, which actually gives Jordan control over most of the water flowing into the River Jordan.

Both Jordan and Israel have recently agreed to to use less water from the River Jordan and signed a treaty to construct a desalinization plant in Aqaba (which will also supply additional water to the PA):

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mi...0LU23Z20150226

The water supply to the PA is largely controlled by the Oslo Accords. It makes the PA and the individual municipalities responsible for distribution of water to Palestinian citizens. Israel has no power to cut off water from Palestinians in the West Bank. The PA is also notorious for its corruption and has yet to develop all of the resources allocated to it. Leaders like Arafat syphoned off billions of dollars in aid, but the PA has yet to drill all of its approved wells.

Overall, Israel actually takes little water from the Jordan River. Most of their water comes from either desalinization or naturally occurring water tables which run into Israel. This whole debate over distribution of water from the River Jordan was really in the media about 4-5 years ago, but isn't really reflective of facts on the ground any more.