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OMG!WTF! · 06-07-2016, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Slava

Below your hip on the side kind of thing and when you're walking/standing?

Yes, exactly there. Super painful to touch/poke. Walking is ok but moving side to side (abduction) hurts. Crossing my leg would be impossible. Seems like the top of my IT band area. Doesn't seem like the joint itself. Totally unlike anything I've felt before.

Probably the best indication was the super intense pain while going around corners in a car yesterday. Stabilizing my leg from that momentum was really painful. I'm wondering if it's a smaller muscle that is out of balance with the bigger ones. I've done lots of squats and bike sprints lately so that might be it...all glutes no hip flexors.

Street Pharmacist · 06-07-2016, 10:38 AM

~12k prescriptions for opioids in 2009 to ~24.2 in 2015. That's more than 200% in the six year span. As for population, it went from 3.7M to 4.2M for about 16% increase

So no, that doesn't explain very much of it.

EldrickOnIce · 06-07-2016, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper

Based on your sample size of one there is the danger is overblown. When do you get published?

Ha yes well - based on N=1, my assumption was that the problem came from the street pharmacists.

Canehdianman · 06-07-2016, 10:45 AM

After seeing what opoid addiction did to a friend, I took exactly 2 of the 30 percocets I was prescribed after my detached retina surgery.

Ragz · 06-07-2016, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Canehdianman

After seeing what opoid addiction did to a friend, I took exactly 2 of the 30 percocets I was prescribed after my detached retina surgery.

Same story here, after seeing too much I took 6 of the prescribed 40 for my ACL replacement surgery, but they did work.

opendoor · 06-07-2016, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Also, hydromorphone is not stronger than heroine

My understanding is that on a per mg basis hydromorphone is about 3-4 times more potent than diamorphine.

Street Pharmacist · 06-07-2016, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by opendoor

My understanding is that on a per mg basis hydromorphone is about 3-4 times more potent than diamorphine.

While technically true, the reason heroin is so addictive is that it is far more lipophilic and therefore reaches high concentrations in the brain much quicker and higher than equivalent doses of hydromorphone. Basically, while the conversion works for analgesic doses, the effective doses can be quite different

Minnie · 06-07-2016, 01:12 PM

Given the multiple diagnoses my kid has, we've seen a lot of the opiates. However, she only keeps T3s on hand at home now, and uses with Advil. When the T3s are not enough to deal with the pain from Ank/Spond and Trigeminal Neuralgia, she will go in to receive more appropriate pain management. She tries very hard to tough her way through most pain because of the addictive nature of opioids and because of the stigma surrounding the use of them. She's going to speak with her rheumatologist about Naproxyn over the Advil. If she goes in for pain management, the usual "cocktail" the docs prescribe is Morphine IV/Toradol IV/Zofran. During hospitalizations for both the Ank/Spond and Trigeminal Neuralgia, they have used Fentanyl but she hated that so much she has refused it when a doc has said they would like to use that.

When my husband had his ACL repair done, he found that the opiates didn't help him in the slightest, so they did IV Toradol in the hospital and sent him home with a script for Perc and Toradol. He only filled the Toradol script and it was sufficient.

NuclearFart · 06-07-2016, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by T@T

Tell that to the 30,000 family's who lost a loved one last year in North America from deaths due to opioid drugs. And you are sooooo wrong on how the doctors prescribe these drugs.

T@T is correct, over prescription of narcotics is a problem, and its growing.

bizaro86 · 06-07-2016, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Canehdianman

After seeing what opoid addiction did to a friend, I took exactly 2 of the 30 percocets I was prescribed after my detached retina surgery.

I would return the extra to a pharmacy or something, 28 percocet isn't something I'd want in my house.

saillias · 06-07-2016, 01:47 PM

I was prescribed T3s after a surgery yesterday. They are just making me groggy and sleepy.

Sliver · 06-07-2016, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bizaro86

I would return the extra to a pharmacy or something, 28 percocet isn't something I'd want in my house.

Is that a lot for a junkie? How many would a guy take to get high?

OMG!WTF! · 06-07-2016, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by saillias

I was prescribed T3s after a surgery yesterday. They are just making me groggy and sleepy.

I haven't slept since starting them yesterday around 4pm. Do they help? Hope surgery went well.

Mightyfire89 · 06-07-2016, 01:54 PM

I've had 4 surgeries on various body parts over the last ten years. I filled the first scrip for Percs and I think I took 2 or 3 of them and then recognized the danger and didn't take anymore. Addiction runs in my family and I could see how this could rapidly become a major problem. After each procedure the doc would prescribe me some variety of opioid painkillers and I always said no thanks. Every time, the doc would tell me to take the scrip, just in case I needed it. I filled the second one and never took any of the pills. After that, I didn't even get the scrips filled. I may be lucky in that I have a fairly high pain threshold, so I could get away with it.

saillias · 06-07-2016, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

I haven't slept since starting them yesterday around 4pm. Do they help? Hope surgery went well.

If you have no plans of working or driving after taking them, sure.

Thanks it did.

Canehdianman · 06-07-2016, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sliver

Is that a lot for a junkie? How many would a guy take to get high?

How much money you got?

Street Pharmacist · 06-07-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sliver

Is that a lot for a junkie? How many would a guy take to get high?

$5 a pill street value...

Canehdianman · 06-07-2016, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

$5 a pill street value...

Damn! I'm rich beyond the dreams of avarice!!

polak · 06-07-2016, 03:02 PM

I got a months supply of Demerol when I broke my collarbone in Grade 12. I was told that it was synthesized morphine but googling now I'm thinking that was the doctor trying to scare me?

That was awesome. The only negative being the complete loss of inhibitions when talking to people....

Totally got addicted to it. Luckily I didn't have a way of getting more.

TheSutterDynasty · 06-07-2016, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

Yes, exactly there. Super painful to touch/poke. Walking is ok but moving side to side (abduction) hurts. Crossing my leg would be impossible. Seems like the top of my IT band area. Doesn't seem like the joint itself. Totally unlike anything I've felt before.

Probably the best indication was the super intense pain while going around corners in a car yesterday. Stabilizing my leg from that momentum was really painful. I'm wondering if it's a smaller muscle that is out of balance with the bigger ones. I've done lots of squats and bike sprints lately so that might be it...all glutes no hip flexors.

Go to physio.

Obviously you still need some pain control, but that's going to do nothing to resolve the underlying problem.

One of the smaller glute muscles (medius and minimus) are about where you're describing. People can often have issues with the tendon there. It's also the most common referral for hip joint pathology, which could be a number of different things.

Anti-inflammatories might be more helpful depending on the underlying pain generator.