[News] Front Office Shake-up in Florida

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Frequitude

I agree with everything but the Hossa contract. Sure it might be a bit of an anchor at the end, but Hossa at $5.75 was hugely important value during their prime run over the past 5 years. Beyond worth it in my opinion.

Agreed it was one of those deals (why I said it wasn't a bad deal) where it was worth it because he's been a big performer for them in the playoffs and regular season but the back end of the deal will have to be dealt with soon. Another thing about Tallon that can't be stressed enough is that Ekblad is a Panther in spite of Tallon as that guy worked his butt off trying to trade that pick for immediate help.

[FireGilbert]

Originally Posted by CMPunk

Depends, some teams pay more. I know the Flames weren't paying much, but you made up for it with your per diem, team paid meals and bonuses from the players.

I am intrigued by this comment. Players are supposed to tip the equipment managers or provide them with an envelope of cash at Christmas?

[FurnaceFace]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

I am intrigued by this comment. Players are supposed to tip the equipment managers or provide them with an envelope of cash at Christmas?

Likely. Or like we heard Sedin gave his all star cheque to the equipment guys.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Locke

John Madden. Theres your problem. Too much Turducken.

Bite your tongue!

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

I am intrigued by this comment. Players are supposed to tip the equipment managers or provide them with an envelope of cash at Christmas?

Pretty much. At the end of the season the players all chip in and it's split between the medical and equipment staff as a thank you for all the hard work they put in.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by CMPunk

Pretty much. At the end of the season the players all chip in and it's split between the medical and equipment staff as a thank you for all the hard work they put in.

How much is this in the NHL? $1,000 per player? $10,000 per player? A percentage of salary?

Kind of hoping the players making 5-9 million a year are putting some big bucks into this kitty...

[FireGilbert]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

How much is this in the NHL? $1,000 per player? $10,000 per player? A percentage of salary?

Kind of hoping the players making 5-9 million a year are putting some big bucks into this kitty...

I was kind of hoping the owners would pay the equipment guys a fair salary so they didn't need to rely on handouts from the players.

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

How much is this in the NHL? $1,000 per player? $10,000 per player? A percentage of salary?

Kind of hoping the players making 5-9 million a year are putting some big bucks into this kitty...

No idea, I never got into the numbers, just know it was happening. It's not hand outs. It's just the players showing appreciation to guys who are at the rink almost 24/7 during the season to make sure the players have what they need to be successful.

[d_phaneuf]

http://www.si.com/nhl/2016/01/19/nhl...angaroo-courts

there was a story on it earlier this year for how some of them get their tips with the kangaroo court fines amongst the team

Most, if not all, of the money gets kicked back into the team after the season ends, either for parties or four-figure tips for support staffers, like athletic trainers and equipment managers

[Da_Chief]

Listening to Elliott on 960 this morning, he said something really weird. Decisions to be made by Tallon (President), Rowe (GM), Joyce (AGM) as a committee but Joyce the AGM will have the biggest influence. That is just absurd.

So had to find out who this Joyce guy is...

http://panthers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=98692

A native of Boston, Mass., Eric has held numerous positions throughout the US government and the private sector focusing on national security. Most notably, Eric served as an Army Captain during Operation Iraqi Freedom III in Mosul, Iraq from 2004-2005 and was awarded the Combat Infantryman’s Badge, the Bronze Star and the Valorous Unit Citation.

Eric is a 2002 Graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, with a degree in Systems Engineering, and is also a 2011 Graduate of Harvard’s Kennedy School with a focus on International Relations and econometrics. His hockey experience includes playing at the United States Military Academy from 1998-2002, where he was a member of the ECAC All-Academic team.

Interesting background for sure...

[sureLoss]

Apparently there is a rumor going around that Tallon might leave the Panthers. Friedman says the rumor is that the team at the top of the list that Tallon would join is the Canucks. Canucks denied it according to Friedman, but he thinks if there is anything to it, it will happen around June 30.

Talk of the rumor starts at 2:30 in this video:

edit correct link:https://www.nhl.com/video/nhl-live-f...912/c-43987803

[Street Pharmacist]

That would suck for us in the Pacific. Tallon has a pretty good track record

[ricosuave]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

That would suck for us in the Pacific. Tallon has a pretty good track record

Yup, but he does have that history, so it kinda makes sense...

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Listening to Elliott on 960 this morning, he said something really weird. Decisions to be made by Tallon (President), Rowe (GM), Joyce (AGM) as a committee but Joyce the AGM will have the biggest influence. That is just absurd.

So had to find out who this Joyce guy is...

http://panthers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=98692


Interesting background for sure...

So, the Panthers are going to employ the nuclear option next season?

[Erick Estrada]

I'm really enjoying the Benning/Weisbrod show in Vancouver and would be sad to see it end but if they have to go I'm perfectly fine with Tallon being the replacement. I would love to see Bryan Bickell in a Canucks jersey on his current salary and that's a typical Tallon move.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

That would suck for us in the Pacific. Tallon has a pretty good track record

As long as he does his business via fax, then i have no problem with it.

[sureLoss]

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
FLA changes continue. Hearing team fired Scott Luce, who ran organization's very successful drafts of past few years. He will be in demand

Luce was pretty much in charge of Panther's drafting since 2003

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
FLA changes continue. Hearing team fired Scott Luce, who ran organization's very successful drafts of past few years. He will be in demand

Luce was pretty much in charge of Panther's drafting since 2003

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/t...r00005763.html

Really not a great track record outside the first round. Heck, really not that impressive outside of top 5 picks.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/t...r00005763.html

Really not a great track record outside the first round. Heck, really not that impressive outside of top 5 picks.

Well I think Kulikov, Matheson and Bjugstad are pretty solid non top 10 1st round picks.

But yeah only Markstrom, Booth, Petrovic, Trocheck as significant players taken outside the 1st in 10 years of scouting and Markstrom, Booth and Petrovic were 2nds with Trocheck being a 3rd.

Just goes to show how much failure there is in the later rounds. The chance of getting an impact NHLer out of the 4th round or beyond is extremely low.

This guy's record makes Tod Button look like a scouting genius in comparison.

[sureLoss]

You do have to wonder how much the Panthers spent on amateur scouting for the last decade plus. They have been one of the weakest teams financially.