For the love of Johnny - career prediction

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

In terms of raw skill, Gaudreau may be the best player to ever play for the Flames. Until he plays 8-10 years of similar production, we will have to wait to see if he can wrangle the top player moniker from Jarome.

Kenta says hi.

https://youtu.be/uuBrttASsk0?t=5m38s

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Don't you mean Conroy?

Langkow played almost a hundred more games than Conroy and has over 120 more points.

Langkow: 1090 GP 270G 402A 672P

Conroy: 1009 GP 182G 360A 542P

Iginla also had his best PPG season alongside Langkow - under Playfair, he was on pace for his only 100 point season and had another 50 goal campaign.

Love Conroy. Langkow was better.

[AltaGuy]

We had the best powerforward, best goalie, and best shutdown D in the league. One run, no cups, many first round exits, and Mike Keenan.

Still makes me wince.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

The Flames inability to build a team around Jarome Iginla and Miikka Kiprusoff is truly astonishing when you think about it. How was the best centre Iggy ever played with Daymond Langkow?

Because Marc Savard was fat.

[troutman]

Only 15 players in the long history of the NHL have scored more goals than Iginla.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Langkow played almost a hundred more games than Conroy and has over 120 more points.

Langkow: 1090 GP 270G 402A 672P

Conroy: 1009 GP 182G 360A 542P

Iginla also had his best PPG season alongside Langkow - under Playfair, he was on pace for his only 100 point season and had another 50 goal campaign.

Love Conroy. Langkow was better.

Langkow was a better player in his prime no doubt but Iginla didn't play with Langkow in his prime. He played with Conroy in his prime.

[calgaryblood]

Maybe my memory is off I don't remember Iginla playing with Langkow much.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Maybe my memory is off I don't remember Iginla playing with Langkow much.

It happened. Not that there's really much to remember about that era of Flames hockey. The most memorable moment post 2004 was probably the comeback against San Jose where Cujo pitched a shutout. Other than that, it was a lot of stat padding.

Yeesh.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Theo Fleury...still.

just ask him

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by New Era

In his own mind maybe.

Who cares what is his attitude is, he was the greatest forward to ever don the Flames jersey. If the Flames had not been a cap strapped team and Fleury had stayed in Calgary and not gone off the deep end, Iginla would not even got remotely close to his numbers. You can say he is a jerk, that he is full of himself and he might be but that does not change the fact he was the most talented player to ever play for the Flames. When you look at the numbers he put up while here, his fire and passion for the game, and unbelievable skill level it is not even arguable.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

The Flames inability to build a team around Jarome Iginla and Miikka Kiprusoff is truly astonishing when you think about it. How was the best centre Iggy ever played with Daymond Langkow?

The team never drafted top 5 when they needed to, simple as that. The Flames were two wins away in 2013 from not having this problem solved to this very day.

Sutter should've ponied up for Joe Thornton when he had the chance considering he probably wasn't planning or expecting his team to finish low enough in the standings to actually fix the problem.

[Rtown]

Originally Posted by LIP MAN

It's astonishing. We were so inept, we traded Savard (whom had scored 4 goals in a game soon before) because of Gilbert, then fired Gilbert weeks later.

my god, this STILL drives me crazy thinking about it. Side with the coach, fine, trade the "problem" player fine. but to then turn around a fire the coach. grrrrrrrrrr

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Who cares what is his attitude is, he was the greatest forward to ever don the Flames jersey. If the Flames had not been a cap strapped team and Fleury had stayed in Calgary and not gone off the deep end, Iginla would not even got remotely close to his numbers. You can say he is a jerk, that he is full of himself and he might be but that does not change the fact he was the most talented player to ever play for the Flames. When you look at the numbers he put up while here, his fire and passion for the game, and unbelievable skill level it is not even arguable.

*puff* *puff* *pass*

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by New Era

*puff* *puff* *pass*

Spoken like someone who knows they have no argument.

[doctajones428]

Kipper.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by doctajones428

Kipper.

Yeah, I could run with that.

Feller won major hardware and was in contention several years.

Kipper rules.

[saskflames69]

when I try to picture the Calgary Flames, an image of Jarome's grinning bald head pops up every damn time

Johnny might lead us to great things down the road, but Iggy will always be #1 in my heart

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

The team never drafted top 5 when they needed to, simple as that. The Flames were two wins away in 2013 from not having this problem solved to this very day.

Sutter should've ponied up for Joe Thornton when he had the chance considering he probably wasn't planning or expecting his team to finish low enough in the standings to actually fix the problem.

Sutter himself said that he wasn't aware that Thornton was available, because he would have made a better offer.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Kenta says hi.

https://youtu.be/uuBrttASsk0?t=5m38s

As a big fan of Kent in the day I would still say Johnny has far better vision and a quicker stick. hard to compare different era's but the way Johnny finds open players with a pass it seems he has 8 eyes like a spider.

Kent was more of a razzle-dazzle type player...fun to watch when he was in the mood but when the tough got going he mostly didn't get the program.

Gaudreau likes to put on a show but even more he loves big games and big pressure.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Spoken like someone who knows they have no argument.

No, spoken like someone who has watched the Flames since their inception and appreciates Fleury for what he was. You want to talk about the greatest Flame production wise, it's Jarome Iginla. Numbers don't lie. You want to talk about the most talented player to ever don the Flaming C, it was Kent Nilson. The reviews and comments from some of the greatest players in the game don't lie. You want to talk about the greatest Flame, what he did for the team and the community at large, it was Lanny McDonald. The legacy doesn't lie.

When you want to talk about Theo Fleury we have to go back to the darkest days of the franchise. He was "the man" during a period where no one wanted to play this team and the team couldn't retain any talent. Fleury was the show and he liked it that way. I can't think of a more egotistical arrogant obnoxious personality to every wear a Calgary jersey. He was talented, was driven, but was such a massive ####### to anyone who every interacted with him that it cancels out anything positive he may have done. When you were around Fleury it was always about him. The guy was a loser. From being at the center of the embarrassing Punch Up in Piestany to the career ending disaster in Chicago it was always about Fleury and his excess. So I don't see anything about Fleury that deems him the greatest at anything for the Flames, unless you're talking in negative terms. Then you can say Fleury was the greatest ####### that ever put on a Calgary Flames jersey, and you would be accurate in that assessment. His behavior and reputation don't lie.