[Rumour] Ortio indicates that his agent has "talked" with Calgary (nothing major yet)

[Vinny01]

His play over the past 10 games makes me comfortable having Treliving bring him back as the undisputed backup next year.

Just hoping we get that legit starter

[Fire]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

If Ortio wants to stay long term, I won't hesitate to offer him something like 3 or 4 years x 1.5m per. He has proven himself to be at least a solid backup. If he is a career backup, the money isn't devastating. If he earns a starter role down the road with us, this will turn out to be a fantastic deal.

Ortio would never do that. I think he has more confidence in himself than that.

I don't think the Flames would want a 3 or 4 year deal either. Too risky for both sides.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Hopefully Flames sign him as he has looked good lately. Worth a shot I think. I thought I read somewhere on these boards though that a poster had "sources" that already said the Flames have no interest in bringing him back?

I can attest to reading that as well. I believe was during the time when Ramo just got injured and Hiller was getting all the starts

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Bro that is insulting.

It certainly is. It shouldn't be a penny more than his qualifying offer.

[The Fonz]

2yrs @ 900k should get it done. I don't believe he'd get anymore elsewhere... Every team has an Ortio in their system.

[Mister Yamoto]

I wonder if the Flames could give him his QO so they could retain his rights. Then see what their options are in trade/free agency over the summer.

It's kind of a tough call for both sides. Ortio would not want a "show me" type deal because he has already done that (and that is assuming he even wants to be a Flame). The Flames are in a bind because it is unclear what Ortio has showed them.

I think that Treliving should at least try to do better than Ortio.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto

I wonder if the Flames could give him his QO so they could retain his rights. Then see what their options are in trade/free agency over the summer.

It's kind of a tough call for both sides. Ortio would not want a "show me" type deal because he has already done that (and that is assuming he even wants to be a Flame). The Flames are in a bind because it is unclear what Ortio has showed them.

I think that Treliving should at least try to do better than Ortio.

This. You are completely right. The Flames should extend him qualifying offer and not a thing more until they have a better idea what is happening.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Hopefully Flames sign him as he has looked good lately. Worth a shot I think. I thought I read somewhere on these boards though that a poster had "sources" that already said the Flames have no interest in bringing him back?

That was maybe me and I had heard that in January and it was because the team was extremely frustrated how the season unfolded and they had shifted to finding replacement goaltenders and that all three were likely not coming back. Now lots can change between now and then and I wouldn't be surprised if Ortio has played his way back into the conversation as the backup especially seeing they should be able to retain him in the range of $900k which helps with their ever increasing cap situation. That said I wouldn't be surprised if two goaltenders are added to the organization in the offseason.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I'd be shocked if Ortio wasn't brought back next season as the backup. He's played very well lately, could be had for fairly cheap, and you don't have to give up any assets to bring him back. Of course the Flames need a legitimate starter, but to give up on Ortio just to take a chance on another backup doesn't make much sense.

[mrkajz44]

He has a 2.62 GAA with a .908 SV% this year. This is pretty much bang on with his career numbers in the NHL. I think some people think he is better than he really is because our goaltending has been so poor this year, but those numbers are nothing to write home about.

He's essentially a replacement level player. Sign him for less than $1M for a year or two and he can back-up. I think it's wishful thinking to hope he'll turn into something much better than this, and to pay him north of $1M is just bad cap management.

[SportsJunky]

It seems like the way to go here. It fits for both sides for the short term anyway. Bring in a Reimer to hold down the #1 spot for two to three years. Treliving should be able to address the goaltending issues of this team fairly simply with a couple of contract offers.

[Strange Brew]

Yep. His career numbers and yearly numbers are what they are. He has good stretches and bad stretches so no sense trying to explain away the bad ones as if they will never happen again.

Would really like to see Flames move towards more 1 year contracts which is exactly what I want for Ortio. If he hits it out of the park and earns a bigger next contract, so be it. That is a better alternative, to me, than hoping you can sign him to a long term bargain contract.

[Stay Golden]

2 years 1m per. What I don't want to see is a 1 year.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

He has a 2.62 GAA with a .908 SV% this year.

Useless numbers when it comes to evaluating individual goalie performance. Particularly useless in Ortio'a based on the vast gulfs of time between starts and his stage in development as a goalie.

I'm as high, if not higher on Orto than anyone and have been posting pretty regular updates on his stats, but I am 100% in the "Qualify him and not much more" camp.

Extend QO, see if anyone offersheets, after that offer a 1 year deal for QOx1.15 to show respect for work done, let him prove himself. I'm reasonably sure he's still an RFA after next year too, if not, 2 years at QOx1.25. No more than that.

[FanIn80]

Counting every single game he's played since Feb 15th, he's allowed 37 goals in 16 games. That's literally 2.31 goals per game (not GAA).

If the Calgary Flames only allowed 2.31 goals per game all season, we'd be at 183 goals against after 79 games played. Washington has 182 goals against in 78 games played.

Not an incredibly logical comparison I know, but at least it gives an idea as to how well he's played.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

2 years 1m per. What I don't want to see is a 1 year.

Why not?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

He has a 2.62 GAA with a .908 SV% this year. This is pretty much bang on with his career numbers in the NHL. I think some people think he is better than he really is because our goaltending has been so poor this year, but those numbers are nothing to write home about.

He's essentially a replacement level player. Sign him for less than $1M for a year or two and he can back-up. I think it's wishful thinking to hope he'll turn into something much better than this, and to pay him north of $1M is just bad cap management.

Career numbers in the NHL?

The guy is 24 years old and has played a grand total of 35 NHL games in his life.

I'm not saying he should be the Flames starter next year (unless he earns it and performs) but you are talking like he is what he is, when in reality he probably hasn't even come close to answering those questions yet.

He's just a baby as far as NHL goaltenders go.

[killer_carlson]

I'd be ok with 2 years at $750 or $800 per, on a one way contract

[Fuzz]

Give him a really big 2 year contract so we can expose him in the entry draft to count against our 20%, or whatever it is.