Ouch. NHL emails released re: concussions & fighting...

[MarkGio]

I like how the NHL said its not in the business of making the game safer at all levels. One of the biggest tools unions have when creating cohesiveness with workers is safety concerns.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

I like how the NHL said its not in the business of making the game safer at all levels. One of the biggest tools unions have when creating cohesiveness with workers is safety concerns.

The PA has done a mighty terrible job of protecting players too, including, but not limited to taking the player`s side, when said player commits a dirty play and faces a suspension. The PA takes the offending players' side. Every. Damn. Time.

[Aarongavey]

http://www.tsn.ca/u-s-senator-attack...uries-1.546948

I hope that this Senator and others start to put the screws to the NHL. Bettman is such a meathead. No link between CTE and concussions, according to Gary's medical degree.

[trublmaker]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

http://www.tsn.ca/u-s-senator-attack...uries-1.546948

I hope that this Senator and others start to put the screws to the NHL. Bettman is such a meathead. No link between CTE and concussions, according to Gary's medical degree.

Is it on the NHL or the NHLPA though. I've never heard of them coming to the defense of a victim to fight for "more" games in a suspension on head shots. I'd like to hear where they stand or is that a can of worms they don't want opened? Ultimately its on all the players to have respect for their fellow union brother's.

[GioforPM]

I agree that the NHLPA falls down when it comes to player protection. They default to "player choice" on visors, they side with offenders in discipline situations, etc.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I agree that the NHLPA falls down when it comes to player protection. They default to "player choice" on visors, they side with offenders in discipline situations, etc.

I believe the visors are now mandatory for players joining after a certain date.

I can't recall when that started. But, much like with helmets, once the grandfathered players are out of the league all the players will have visors.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

The PA has done a mighty terrible job of protecting players too, including, but not limited to taking the player`s side, when said player commits a dirty play and faces a suspension. The PA takes the offending players' side. Every. Damn. Time.

They take the offending player's position when it comes to punishment, but the PA has also pursued more protection in the form of medical treatment, mandatory IR time, and being able to seek 2nd opinions on their health.

I doubt there is a link between punishment and deterrent. Just like in the regular legal system, no one commits an act expecting a certain punishment or to get caught at all. Even with most "dirty hits" there is often an element of misfortune. For example, a player moves at the last second and a would-be clean hit becomes a dirty hit in about half a second.

Other cases like the Bertuzzi or McSorely incidents are too rare to generalize on.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I believe the visors are not mandatory for players joining after a certain date.

I can't recall when that started. But, much like with helmets, once the grandfathered players are out of the league all the players will have visors.

I assume the "not" in your first sentence is supposed to be a "now".


Any player who had fewer than 26 NHL games played entering the 2013-14 season is required to wear a visor.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

http://www.tsn.ca/u-s-senator-attack...uries-1.546948

I hope that this Senator and others start to put the screws to the NHL. Bettman is such a meathead. No link between CTE and concussions, according to Gary's medical degree.

Bettman is just acting on behalf of his employers.
It is my understanding that thee players case basically hinges exclusively on the notion that the NHL knew the link, and withheld that information. So the owners stance, that Bettman continues with, is they still aren't convinced of the link. That's what makes Daly's comments in the email chain troublesome for the league.
The NFL took a different approach, and say they now know there is a link, but did not know earlier. It will be interesting to see if one strategy is more effective, as these court cases continue and finally conclude.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

They take the offending player's position when it comes to punishment, but the PA has also pursued more protection in the form of medical treatment, mandatory IR time, and being able to seek 2nd opinions on their health.

I doubt there is a link between punishment and deterrent. Just like in the regular legal system, no one commits an act expecting a certain punishment or to get caught at all. Even with most "dirty hits" there is often an element of misfortune. For example, a player moves at the last second and a would-be clean hit becomes a dirty hit in about half a second.

Other cases like the Bertuzzi or McSorely incidents are too rare to generalize on.

If a player is hurt by another player - why does the PA defend the hurter and not the hurtee?

[Buff]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

If a player is hurt by another player - why does the PA defend the hurter and not the hurtee?

Because the NHL is the enemy and they must thwart the NHL at every step of the way, and the hurter is being punished by the dastardly NHL. The hurter must be protected from the big giant monster who is out to take advantage of the players.