03-03-2016, 03:07 PM
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CBC had a good piece on them. Apparently the ownership is the biggest issue, because they have these super voting shares that they can pretty much override any votes with. So private investors won't invest in Bombardier becuase they have no control over the company, so the share price has tanked. The suggestion was to force ownership to get rid of those shares to encourage investors.
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03-03-2016, 03:23 PM
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Norm!
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You want to diversify this province and make lots of money.
High Tech Weapons systems are where its at.
Nukes, Chemical and Biological. Precision guided munitions with a made in Alberta label.
Tanks APC's artillary pieces.
also it might make it easier to get a pipeline through if your sitting on a massive weapons stockpile.
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03-03-2016, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Iggy City
Or better yet, scrap the entire Energy East Pipeline project and change it to...Energy East Airline and transfer all the oil to the east coast by plane.
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I've heard (not read) from studies, scientists, and e-blogs that this is the safest method for transporting liquids petroleum products.
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03-03-2016, 03:30 PM
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Or, and I'm just spitballing here...we could pave Quebec and turn the entire province into a drive-in movie theater.
It might actually become cash positive for the very first time.
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03-03-2016, 03:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
You want to diversify this province and make lots of money.
High Tech Weapons systems are where its at.
Nukes, Chemical and Biological. Precision guided munitions with a made in Alberta label.
Tanks APC's artillary pieces.
also it might make it easier to get a pipeline through if your sitting on a massive weapons stockpile.
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We had a large number of defense contractors in the area. Raytheon, Lockheed, General Dynamics to name a few. I used to work for high precision GPS end of things and we were building guidance systems that went into missiles, predator drones as well as a lot of commercial stuff like self driving cars/tractors. GPS guide rail gun munitions... lets do it Alberta lol
If some incentives were put into place here and the conditions were viable, this could actually work. Last I heard since I left the industry, they were laying off.
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03-03-2016, 03:38 PM
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Personally i think Alberta's best way to diversification is to actually enhance their already large energy platform, hear me out.
As the global population continues to develop and population grow energy consumption will continue to rise (and potentially plateau through efficiencies ect...) howvere there will ALWAYS be engery consumption, unless we go back to a stone age civilization however at that point this whole need for diversification is a moot point.
The problem with Alberta is our engery sector is heavily tied to one type, and one that in the long term will significantly decline. That being said there is still huge demand for the energy that we are producing. So lets return a portion of the royalties from one energy development type to an other. This way our industrial & manufacturing infrastructure can still be used and transitioned over a more realistic economic time frame while provide a product that will be used so long as there is a modern civilization.
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03-03-2016, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Locke
Or, and I'm just spitballing here...we could pave Quebec and turn the entire province into a drive-in movie theater.
It might actually become cash positive for the very first time.
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You sound like Cornelius the First.
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03-03-2016, 04:02 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by SebC
Pay taxes to invest where we already have no competitive advantage and move it to a high-cost business environment?
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You basically just described most government created diversification programs.
It makes no sense to force Bombardier to develop a presence in Alberta though. Logistically, for reasons already given, and politically, because Quebec would take it as a betrayal, and our Quebec based PM would never deliberately offend his home constituents.
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03-03-2016, 04:08 PM
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The question I have is what industries, other than oil and gas, benefit from high quantities of concentrated office space? Because that's what we've got going for us that other cities don't. That's where our economy will head if oil and gas doesn't rebound.
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03-03-2016, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SebC
The question I have is what industries, other than oil and gas, benefit from high quantities of concentrated office space? Because that's what we've got going for us that other cities don't. That's where our economy will head if oil and gas doesn't rebound.
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IT, finance or banking?
That is a total guess.
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03-03-2016, 04:16 PM
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Not Taylor
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Calgary SW
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
If Alberta wanted to try to diversify the economic by attracting some big manufacturing they should aggressively pursue Hyundai/Kia. HK has been planning to open a new manufacturing facility in Canada for a few years now. Obviously there are some hurdles with being in Alberta such as distance from the major auto manufacturing on the east coast and potentially higher cost labour. Some of the benefits though could be big government incentives, cheap land, non union workforce and closer access to west coast shipping ports.
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Doesn't having the mountains in the way cancel out the closer access to west coast ports? I'm asking seriously, because I don't know. Does winter in the mountains currently have a negative impact on transporting between the two provinces? I'd assume it does.
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03-03-2016, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SebC
The question I have is what industries, other than oil and gas, benefit from high quantities of concentrated office space? Because that's what we've got going for us that other cities don't. That's where our economy will head if oil and gas doesn't rebound.
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And a huge supply of engineering labor.
It's a great question. Maybe commodity trading ala Chicago?
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03-03-2016, 04:36 PM
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Norm!
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We should get in the market of selling serious a%%kickings.
We could advertise it on all of the websites. If someone is willing to pay, we'll send one of our specialists out to kick someones a%%.
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03-03-2016, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cameron Swift
Doesn't having the mountains in the way cancel out the closer access to west coast ports? I'm asking seriously, because I don't know. Does winter in the mountains currently have a negative impact on transporting between the two provinces? I'd assume it does.
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I mentioned closer access to west coast ports as a benefit under the assumption that Hyundai/Kia import materials and/or parts from Asia. If they had a manufacturing facility in Alberta I would assume that there would be some cost savings in shipping from California/Washington/Vancouver to Alberta instead of Ontario. But I don't know anything about transportation logistics.
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03-03-2016, 04:43 PM
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Not Taylor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SebC
The question I have is what industries, other than oil and gas, benefit from high quantities of concentrated office space? Because that's what we've got going for us that other cities don't. That's where our economy will head if oil and gas doesn't rebound.
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Paintball Party capital of the world!
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03-03-2016, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
We should get in the market of selling serious a%%kickings.
We could advertise it on all of the websites. If someone is willing to pay, we'll send one of our specialists out to kick someones a%%.
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Our signature can be beating them with a set of truck nutz.
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03-03-2016, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Our signature can be beating them with a set of truck nutz.
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Screw that. That should be the new Alberta Flag.
A dude, standing on top of a white F-150 with a faux-hawk, wearing white Oakleys and an Affliction shirt, hoisting truck nutz triumphantly. Like the statue of Liberty's torch except truck nutz.
New Alberta Flag. Right there. Sorted.
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03-03-2016, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Locke
Screw that. That should be the new Alberta Flag.
A dude, standing on top of a white F-150 with a faux-hawk, wearing white Oakleys and an Affliction shirt, hoisting truck nutz triumphantly. Like the statue of Liberty's torch except truck nutz.
New Alberta Flag. Right there. Sorted.
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You forgot True Religion Jeans
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03-03-2016, 05:30 PM
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Had an idea!
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I said it in a different thread.
Alberta has a lot of brilliant engineers that figured out how to get oil out of the tar sands and make billions doing it. They need to be focused in a different direction. It could easily work.
Last edited by Azure; 03-04-2016 at 11:59 AM.
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03-03-2016, 06:07 PM
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I agree with whomever said it above: all these engineers seem like they'd be great at producing better and lots of wind/solar energy. There was a piece on CBC last night about silicon valley and how into solar they are - we have lots of sun and lots of engineers - why are we not building the crap out of these things?
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