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Old 02-12-2016, 10:09 AM   #21
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I have a hunch that Hiller is still a great goaltender who has off games when his vertigo acts up. That's the only way I can explain it. He's downright dominate some games and can't stop a beachball other games.
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I wish I didn't hate Hiller as much as I do, but his playing style and inconsistency is just to god damn putrid.
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Old 02-12-2016, 09:59 PM   #24
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I hear the same of every goalie, except Price and Lundqvist. Ramo lets in his fair share of weak ones. Go to Chicago, they say the same about Crawford. Same with Bishop, Quick, etc. The thing is, one of every 11 or so shots goes in against most goalies.

Neither Ramo or Hiller is a solution, but I'd say Hiller is better than a lot of posters think.
You're right. Let's resisign Hiller long term. Look at Hiller's numbers compared to the names you mentioned above.

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Old 02-12-2016, 10:02 PM   #25
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Doesn't matter. Sometimes the D covers for his bad rebound control and his stats look better than his game.

Fewer rebounds tonight as he just let stoppable shots in.

Did not give his team a chance to win.

And that one that got through and hit the crossbar where he gave up and threw his head back and no one realized it was in... that was a save.
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"I saw the play ... I (saw) Karri kind of staying down, so that's normally not a good sign. Especially once (trainer) Kent (Kobelka) there, it didn't look like he would get up any time soon. That's kind of when you start putting your mind into going out there and maybe finishing the period, finishing the game," Hiller said afterwards

"I think the only good part is at that point, nobody expects too much from you I guess. That part makes it, mentally, a bit easier. But at the same time, we really needed these points and I want nothing more than to help the team to win."


Maybe he is a laid back guy but that quote does not seem quite right. If he wants to play somewhere that nobody has expectations, there is always the Oil
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Last week, on HNIC, they were talking about the new regulations for goalie equipment that are likely going to be implemented next season. It sounds like the plan is for the equipment to be a lot more form fitting and contoured to the player's body.

Hrudey said that most goalies are in favour of the changes because they believe that the current standards are out of hand, and have leveled the playing field too much. Higher skilled goalies don't have the advantage that they should.

He said a guy like Quick welcomes the changes because they will favour more athletic goalies over pure butterfly puck blockers. It seems to me that Hiller will be one of the players most negatively impacted by the changes, if they're as drastic as they sound.


Look at how skinny he looks in street clothes compared to in gear...


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Bad goals per game = 1.5
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:16 AM   #29
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Hiller seems more focus when he comes in to replace starter Ramo during the game. Whenever he starts most of the time he was awful. I just don't have any confidence in him at all. Yes he surprises me with the win sometimes but he seems to give up at least one bad goal everytime he plays. Last game against San Jose the post bailed him out on OT. That could have been a weak goal if it went in. Not so sure what is going to happen in the next few games but I hope Hiller plays lights out otherwise we are doomed. I just hope he plays better then when the Flames trade him we can get a good return. If not then I don't think any team would want him.
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We should shop Hiller to them.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2016/02/13/...y%2Carticle%5D

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After another ugly performance from backup Alex Stalock against Calgary on Thursday night, The San Jose Mercury News suggests the team could be in the market for another goalie.

Stalock has appeared in just 13 games this season, but with a busy schedule ahead, San Jose will have to rely on someone other than Jones down the stretch.
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:10 AM   #31
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Hiller's biggest weakness is he simply cannot track long shots, he whiffs at them. You cannot have a starting goalie that has no traffic in front of him from a blueline shot and still can't track it. He also is terrible at positioning on shots that come from a bad angle near the side of the net. I think he is done after this year in the NHL.
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Last week, on HNIC, they were talking about the new regulations for goalie equipment that are likely going to be implemented next season. It sounds like the plan is for the equipment to be a lot more form fitting and contoured to the player's body.

Hrudey said that most goalies are in favour of the changes because they believe that the current standards are out of hand, and have leveled the playing field too much. Higher skilled goalies don't have the advantage that they should.

He said a guy like Quick welcomes the changes because they will favour more athletic goalies over pure butterfly puck blockers. It seems to me that Hiller will be one of the players most negatively impacted by the changes, if they're as drastic as they sound.
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Old 02-14-2016, 10:39 AM   #33
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They play him against bad teams and he still finds a way to make it close

guy is done, likely in the NHL
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He just sits on his knees and can't track pucks at all. Done in the NHL after this season.
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You're right. Let's resisign Hiller long term. Look at Hiller's numbers compared to the names you mentioned above.
Way to miss the point. But if you are a numbers guy, compare Hiller's numbers, including last year, to Ramo.

My point is that his numbers are who he is. Which is a mediocre, but not "putrid" goalie. And that the criticisms are the same on lots of teams with lots of goalies.

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Old 02-15-2016, 07:46 AM   #36
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Hiller is a bad goalie and definitely will not be inNHL next season. He makes routine stops look difficult. Very scary to watch. Ramo is a much better goalie. We will get a very good draft choice if Hartley does not have the internal fortitude to go with Ortio who really is the only option at this point.
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Hiller seems more focus when he comes in to replace starter Ramo during the game. Whenever he starts most of the time he was awful. I just don't have any confidence in him at all. Yes he surprises me with the win sometimes but he seems to give up at least one bad goal everytime he plays. Last game against San Jose the post bailed him out on OT. That could have been a weak goal if it went in. Not so sure what is going to happen in the next few games but I hope Hiller plays lights out otherwise we are doomed. I just hope he plays better then when the Flames trade him we can get a good return. If not then I don't think any team would want him.
I saw this too, its as if he played better because the game was on the line and he had to be quick, where as, when he starts games he seems almost too laid back. He may feel more comfortable with the laid back style but when he gets thrown out there he has to "react" to situations. Being laid back can have it's advantages, but I think it can go the other way as well since the "mind", somewhat sluggish may not react to the speed of certain plays on time. How many times have we seen him throw his head back like he just got beat by a shot he wasn't ready for.

Kippers style was the opposite he was relaxed as a person but when it was game time, he was more intense, prepared and reacted quicker. For all the games Kipper played during a season it was amazing how intense and focused he was.

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Last week, on HNIC, they were talking about the new regulations for goalie equipment that are likely going to be implemented next season. It sounds like the plan is for the equipment to be a lot more form fitting and contoured to the player's body.



Hrudey said that most goalies are in favour of the changes because they believe that the current standards are out of hand, and have leveled the playing field too much. Higher skilled goalies don't have the advantage that they should.



He said a guy like Quick welcomes the changes because they will favour more athletic goalies over pure butterfly puck blockers. It seems to me that Hiller will be one of the players most negatively impacted by the changes, if they're as drastic as they sound.





Look at how skinny he looks in street clothes compared to in gear...






Actually I think Hiller's gear is reasonable and not "maxed out". That's his problem - he's a blocking goalie and he's not very big and his gear isn't very big. That's why he lets in stinkers.

A lot of the blocking goalies will start to look more like Hiller if they make the gear smaller. Look at Anderson or Bishop's gear
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:21 AM   #39
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I wish the guy wasn't starting today. That playoff series last year with the Ducks was telltale for having the guy figured out, and at least an Ortio start would be interesting.
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:23 AM   #40
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oh and speaking of big equipment, did you guys see Ferraro poking at Broissoit yesterday and causing Oiler fans to lose it?

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Oiler fans don't get in a lather here, but Brossoit sure has big, square shoulders-pickup pace on new gear please https://twitter.com/edmontonoilers/status/698747616264196096 …
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