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Old 02-02-2016, 10:15 AM   #21
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Kinda dissapointing...and not the fact that Raymond is on waivers. It's the fact that it isn't Bollig, or even just Granlund going down. I feel like those two are more dead weight than Raymond.

Basically it just proves that we have a lot of improvement left to make on this team.
Bollig has a role that he plays decently. Plus, he's a healthy scratch more often than he's in the lineup it seems.

Granlund is still effective on the ice when he's not scoring. He creates chances and plays well defensively. Raymond is almost unnoticeable when he's not scoring. The rare time I do notice him is when the puck is dying on his stick.

I'd rather have Granlund and Bollig with the team over Raymond.
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I don't think Mason Raymond saw his shadow this morning because he fell down.
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Kinda dissapointing...and not the fact that Raymond is on waivers. It's the fact that it isn't Bollig, or even just Granlund going down. I feel like those two are more dead weight than Raymond.

Basically it just proves that we have a lot of improvement left to make on this team.
Granlund is at least defensively responsible enough to play in a bottom-6 role. Raymond is providing no offense, and is terrible in the bottom-6. Granlund also still has some potential upside. Raymond is what he is at this point.
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Wouldn't shock me to see Raymond clear and Granlund demoted tomorrow
both sent down and Nakladal brought up to help defense with Wideman out
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Hard to figure out why. He's been better than Raymond, but that is still damning with faint praise. Would rather see someone like Grant up in his place.
Granlund becomes waiver eligible next year. Might as well give him as long of a leash as possible this year to see if he can fill a role next year.

Grant would be an improvement but he is what he is at this point and not really a piece for the future.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:17 AM   #28
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Hard to figure out why. He's been better than Raymond, but that is still damning with faint praise. Would rather see someone like Grant up in his place.
Granlund is still good on the PK so he still has some minor role with this team. Raymond I don't really see having a role at all.
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Wonder if Montreal would pick up Prust to see if it gives them a shot in the arm.
Why do the Habs need to pick up Prust? They can just call up all star MVP John Scott and everything will be groovy!
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Kinda dissapointing...and not the fact that Raymond is on waivers. It's the fact that it isn't Bollig, or even just Granlund going down. I feel like those two are more dead weight than Raymond.

Basically it just proves that we have a lot of improvement left to make on this team.
Uhh nope. Raymond is twice as useless as Bollig or Granlund.

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Old 02-02-2016, 10:20 AM   #31
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Hard to figure out why. He's been better than Raymond, but that is still damning with faint praise. Would rather see someone like Grant up in his place.
I would love to see Grant back up and I think we will later in the season, thought he played well in his first go round. As far as Granlund goes I will always lean to the side of the youngster over the vet. Granlund can improve, Raymond not so much.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:29 AM   #32
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So it looks like Granlund will stick around with the big club a while longer.
Pending a Wideman suspension.

If Wides get's dinged I suspect Granlund goes down so we can get another D-man.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:42 AM   #33
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Raymond bad.

Granlund bad.

Send them both away
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Kinda dissapointing...and not the fact that Raymond is on waivers. It's the fact that it isn't Bollig, or even just Granlund going down. I feel like those two are more dead weight than Raymond.

Basically it just proves that we have a lot of improvement left to make on this team.
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This will become real news if and only if these guys either get demoted or claimed.

Please, Treliving & Benning, demote them if they don't get claimed. Otherwise, what's the damn point?
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Raymond bad.

Granlund bad.

Prust bad.

Send them all to the moon
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:04 AM   #37
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It's deserved. Although I think it could've been a toss up between Raymond and Granlund at this point.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:07 AM   #38
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Kinda dissapointing...and not the fact that Raymond is on waivers. It's the fact that it isn't Bollig, or even just Granlund going down. I feel like those two are more dead weight than Raymond.

Basically it just proves that we have a lot of improvement left to make on this team.
I don't disagree. IMO Raymond hasn't been horrible this year - just not a $3M player.

For that reason as well, he won't be claimed. I could see a team thinking he'd be useful depth, but the pricetag is too high. Now if the Flames retained...
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I would love to see Grant back up and I think we will later in the season, thought he played well in his first go round. As far as Granlund goes I will always lean to the side of the youngster over the vet. Granlund can improve, Raymond not so much.
It wasn't a 'Granlund or Raymond' offering. Raymond is going down for Ferland. It's a question of Granlund or Grant to me.
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Would like to see Grant, Nakladal, and Agostino all come up at some point before the end of the season.
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