Calgary eliminates sprawl subsidies for new housing

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I feel like I have the best of the Yop Gobblers and latte sippers

So you're saying you're a latte gobbler?

[undercoverbrother]

not needed

[Hockeyguy15]

I don't disagree with this, it's really just another user tax so to speak. One question I do have though since I can't afford to be a latte sipper. What happens when a bunch of inner city lots have infills put in, does it require utility upgrades? If so, who is on the hook for that?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by OnesAndZeros

So, I am never going to use any of the pedestrian bridge not build in my neighbourhood. Should the rest of Calgary pay for that bridge too? Same argument for the airport tunnel.



Have you thought about people living that far is because they simply can't afford 600k for a fixer upper?

I believe the point is fair cost.

New communities should pay the cost of the community PLUS everything we all have to pay for. Seems fair considering the current arrangement is that old communities pay their way, PLUS everything we all have to pay for, PLUS half the cost of new communities.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I don't disagree with this, it's really just another user tax so to speak. One question I do have though since I can't afford to be a latte sipper. What happens when a bunch of inner city lots have infills put in, does it require utility upgrades? If so, who is on the hook for that?

"while in the established neighbourhoods the cost will be anywhere from $6,267 for a single family home to $2,593 per unit in a multi-unit development. "

[shermanator]

It is possible to live inner city at a reasonable price, you just have to sacrifice the size of your house to do so.

There are dozens of houses available in the inner city for under $600k. But there are no 2000 sq. ft plus basement plus big backyard plus 2 car garage houses available in the inner city for under $600k.

So, it's a tradeoff.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

"while in the established neighbourhoods the cost will be anywhere from $6,267 for a single family home to $2,593 per unit in a multi-unit development. "

I suppose I should read better, I thought that was for the new builds in the burbs.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Muta

About time. As a late sipper myself (and the inventor of the term yop gobbler), I don't have a problem with people paying for the infrastructure that only they will use. If you want to live that far out in a big house with a big yard, have at 'er. Just be prepared to pay the cost of doing so.

You know, I'm going to eventually hire troutman and sue you if you continue to pretend you're the one that came up with that was-funny-at-the-time-but-isn't-anymore phrase.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by shermanator

It is possible to live inner city at a reasonable price, you just have to sacrifice the size of your house to do so.

There are dozens of houses available in the inner city for under $600k. But there are no 2000 sq. ft plus basement plus big backyard plus 2 car garage houses available in the inner city for under $600k.

So, it's a tradeoff.

They've eliminated pretty much all houses in the inner city. Used to be lots in vic park but they have been slowly taken over by condo building. Who the hell thinks it's even a good idea to raise a family in the inner city? There are pretty much no schools, you would be living in a 2 bedroom condo and paying out the $$$ for groceries and anything else you need. You won't even save on gas because there are zero to nil kids stores/grocery stores.

People move to the burbs because that is where they want to raise their kids. Single family homes with backyards and other kids in the area to play with and make friends. Are the inner city kids going to make friends with the drunks? crack heads? How many kids live in the inner city anyway? Considering the amount of 'adults only' buildings in the core families are pretty much left with no other option than to move to the burbs.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

They've eliminated pretty much all houses in the inner city. Used to be lots in vic park but they have been slowly taken over by condo building. Who the hell thinks it's even a good idea to raise a family in the inner city? There are pretty much no schools, you would be living in a 2 bedroom condo and paying out the $$$ for groceries and anything else you need. You won't even save on gas because there are zero to nil kids stores/grocery stores.

People move to the burbs because that is where they want to raise their kids. Single family homes with backyards and other kids in the area to play with and make friends. Are the inner city kids going to make friends with the drunks? crack heads? How many kids live in the inner city anyway? Considering the amount of 'adults only' buildings in the core families are pretty much left with no other option than to move to the burbs.

Is this satire?

[Muta]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

You know, I'm going to eventually hire troutman and sue you if you continue to pretend you're the one that came up with that was-funny-at-the-time-but-isn't-anymore phrase.

You must be a hit at parties.

[shermanator]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

They've eliminated pretty much all houses in the inner city. Used to be lots in vic park but they have been slowly taken over by condo building. Who the hell thinks it's even a good idea to raise a family in the inner city? There are pretty much no schools, you would be living in a 2 bedroom condo and paying out the $$$ for groceries and anything else you need. You won't even save on gas because there are zero to nil kids stores/grocery stores.

People move to the burbs because that is where they want to raise their kids. Single family homes with backyards and other kids in the area to play with and make friends. Are the inner city kids going to make friends with the drunks? crack heads? How many kids live in the inner city anyway? Considering the amount of 'adults only' buildings in the core families are pretty much left with no other option than to move to the burbs.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

They've eliminated pretty much all houses in the inner city. Used to be lots in vic park but they have been slowly taken over by condo building. Who the hell thinks it's even a good idea to raise a family in the inner city? There are pretty much no schools, you would be living in a 2 bedroom condo and paying out the $$$ for groceries and anything else you need. You won't even save on gas because there are zero to nil kids stores/grocery stores.

People move to the burbs because that is where they want to raise their kids. Single family homes with backyards and other kids in the area to play with and make friends. Are the inner city kids going to make friends with the drunks? crack heads? How many kids live in the inner city anyway? Considering the amount of 'adults only' buildings in the core families are pretty much left with no other option than to move to the burbs.

NYC, Vancouver, Singapore, Hong Kong, Berlin, any major city. None of them have kids. You didn't know that?

[PepsiFree]

northcrunk got crunk early today I guess.

[northcrunk]

Lowest priced house in the downtown on MLS right now:

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/S...-South-Calgary

Would anyone really pay $600,000 for this?

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by MattyC

NYC, Vancouver, Singapore, Hong Kong, Berlin, any major city. None of them have kids. You didn't know that?

Different situations there. Calgary is nowhere on the level/size/population of those cities.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Different situations there. Calgary is nowhere on the level/size/population of those cities.

That somehow changes the idea that people can't live and raise families in apartment buildings?

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by MattyC

That somehow changes the idea that people can't live and raise families in apartment buildings?

I sure didn't realize how non family friendly Calgarys core was until I had kids myself. There are barely any schools and there is 1 store in the core mall that sells kids clothes and it's the gap. Those cities have grown up with those demographics so I would assume their infrastructure is in place for families with kids.

[shermanator]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Lowest priced house in the downtown on MLS right now:

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/S...-South-Calgary

Would anyone really pay $600,000 for this?

Not sure what you were using in your search criteria, but you appear to have missed a few. Here's 4 for under $500k, including a 5 bedroom house:

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/S...2T0P4-Richmond

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/S...-T2G3E4-Ramsay

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/S...5-Rutland-Park

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/S...2T2G9-Altadore

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

I sure didn't realize how non family friendly Calgarys core was until I had kids myself. There are barely any schools and there is 1 store in the core mall that sells kids clothes and it's the gap. Those cities have grown up with those demographics so I would assume their infrastructure is in place for families with kids.

Which community are you talking about? There are multiple schools, and a load of stores outside of the core. Are you talking living literally in a downtown high rise?