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Old 12-28-2015, 01:04 PM   #21
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We still need a dominant two-way centre. Gaudreau has potential to be as good as guys like St. Louis and Kane. But those guys still had LeCavalier, Richards, Toews anchoring their teams down the middle. We've gone down the road of building wrongly around Iginla before, I don't want a repeat of that era.
I continue to believe that Bennett is the better C for Gaudreau going forward.
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I continue to believe that Bennett is the better C for Gaudreau going forward.
I am in the same boat. The handful of games they were together, were the most dominant Johnny's line has ever looked. You couldn't get the puck out of their hands.
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I continue to believe that Bennett is the better C for Gaudreau going forward.

Maybe so, but Monahan is not chopped liver. We're insanely lucky to have a pair of 21 year olds at this level of development simultaneously. After Bennett has a full year under his belt -- look out.
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Old 12-28-2015, 01:32 PM   #28
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Maybe so, but Monahan is not chopped liver. We're insanely lucky to have a pair of 21 year olds at this level of development simultaneously. After Bennett has a full year under his belt -- look out.
In no way was my comment meant as a criticism of Monahan. He's a beauty. I just think his role will be better as a 2-way C. And Bennett and Gaudreau as an offensive duo.
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Flames also have Jankowski on the way - he also looks like he will have good potential as a two way centre.
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Old 12-28-2015, 01:42 PM   #30
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In no way was my comment meant as a criticism of Monahan. He's a beauty. I just think his role will be better as a 2-way C. And Bennett and Gaudreau as an offensive duo.
Honestly, I think that, while Bennett is more individually talented than Monahan, Gaudreau and Monahan are better suited to play together. Both Johnny and Bennett want the puck. Sam would rather drive the net with the puck himself than dish it to Gaudreau in the slot. He's always going to be first on the puck and a wrecking ball, he needs a player who is a good support player positionally that will give the puck back to him. I think a guy like Frolik, or a future Ferland is more suited to be playing with Bennett. Monahan has a similar patience to Gaudreau and is that support player that will give the puck back. Monahan Gaudreau and Hudler all kind of move at the same speed, while Bennett is way ahead.

Either way, we will probably see plenty of both and all three together sometimes. Nice to be a Flames fan right now.
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^ Hudler can't keep up this year.
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We still need a dominant two-way centre. Gaudreau has potential to be as good as guys like St. Louis and Kane. But those guys still had LeCavalier, Richards, Toews anchoring their teams down the middle. We've gone down the road of building wrongly around Iginla before, I don't want a repeat of that era.
Well Monahan is on pace for another 60pt year and has played some pretty tough defensive matchups in his career.

I think up front the Flames need one more game breaking elite winger/centre.

If Treliving was somehow able to dump some salary this summer and take a run at Stamkos the Flames top 2 lines could be built around Johnny-Stamkos and Bennett-Monahan. Johansen as well would be a great target.

Treliving has to level up his wizardry but if he can get this team a number 1 goalie and one more elite forward this teams cup window opens and opens wide for several years
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Flames also have Jankowski on the way - he also looks like he will have good potential as a two way centre.
On that Purcell goal, remember the play Draisaitl made last night to break up Gio's pass and spring a breakaway?

Jankowski can bring that element.
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We've gone down the road of building wrongly around Iginla before, I don't want a repeat of that era.
It's not that we built around the wrong player, it's that we didn't build effectively - and for a large part of Iginla's career, we were handicapped in any attempt to do so.

Would the Flames have been better if we were built around Mike Peca?
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It's not that we built around the wrong player, it's that we didn't build effectively - and for a large part of Iginla's career, we were handicapped in any attempt to do so.
You're not disagreeing with me. I said we built wrongly around Iginla. Not that we build around the wrong player in Iginla. We never had a true #1D or a #1C... Conroy, Langkow, Lombardi, Regehr, Phaneuf, J-Bo. Imagine a core of Spezza / Iginla / Chara in that same era instead, we could probably have won without Kipper.
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^ Hudler can't keep up this year.
I agree, he looks a step slower for sure. While Bennett is being used on the wing, I wouldn't mind seeing him with Johnny and Monahan.
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I agree, he looks a step slower for sure. While Bennett is being used on the wing, I wouldn't mind seeing him with Johnny and Monahan.
Hey tried Bennet on the RW of that line and he didn't look comfortable. Not sure if Johnny can play RW but that could be an option maybe. I think Frolik takes #1 RW spot when he returns, unless Hudler picks it up.
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I wonder if Jankowski would be able to take that spot when he is ready for the NHL. He has the skill and size for it, unless we want him to be a center.
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