Hateful Eight & The Revenant (and more) Leaked

[nik-]

Yeah, this happens every year. Always a burst of screeners around Christmas time.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by nik-

Yeah, this happens every year. Always a burst of screeners around Christmas time.

So why the outrage this time if its an anticipated annual event?

I guess its to be expected when you just mail out a bunch of DVDs to thousands of people.

[Looch City]

Because they could have made $2.201 billion instead of $2.2.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Locke

So why the outrage this time if its an anticipated annual event?

The outrage is an anticipated annual event too.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by getbak

The outrage is an anticipated annual event too.

Fair enough.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Locke

So why the outrage this time if its an anticipated annual event?

I guess its to be expected when you just mail out a bunch of DVDs to thousands of people.

usually they're not major pictures that haven't been released yet so I'm guessing that's why this year is a little different. For the most part the screener rush is movies that have been out and not on DVD yet, or still in theatres.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

So you are saying people that like to watch movies wouldn't watch any movies if they have to pay?

I think you're misinterpreting what he meant so I'll use myself as a example. The movies that are interesting to me I'm going to go see in theaters, then there are the movies I don't really have any interest in other then I'm bored as all hell and they happen to be on netflix or a pirating site. If they never appeared on there I would never see them and wouldn't think twice about the movie again. So the amount of money lost by the production companies is exactly zero if I watch a pirated version.

Infact, pirating can generate additonal revenues. There have been instances, albeit only a couple, where I watched a illegal version of a movie and liked it enough I either went and caught it in theaters or purchased a copy for my personal collection. I want to emphasize that these are movies I never in my life would have went to see or purchased.

I'm not trying to justify pirating, I'm just explaining why pirating probably doesn't have much of an effect on the bottom line of a movie and while movie execs sit there and tell you how pirating is such a evil thing I don't think they spend too much time up at night worrying about it. After all, they are choosing to send out these DVD screeners knowing pretty much 100% they're going to end up on torrent sites the day they go out, but they'd rather have the Oscar consideration.

As for The Revenant and the Hateful Eight, I actually quite enjoyed the hateful eight, my biggest criticism as a restless person, is who the F can sit for 3+ hours in a theater for a movie like that. I long for the days of 90 minute movies when I was leaving the theatre wanting more not like these days when I want to bust out my phone to check the time to see how much longer until it's finally over.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Dan02

I long for the days of 90 minute movies when I was leaving the theatre wanting more not like these days when I want to bust out my phone to check the time to see how much longer until it's finally over.

So not only do you pirate movies, but you also use your phone in the theatre? I'm afraid the verdict is in on you, sir.

[Locke]

Oh man, someone offer Dano there a cigarette and a blindfold.

[Engine09]

Tarantino's films are so incredibly and beautifully filmed that I can't imagine watching them on anything but a theater screen or eventually a BluRay. Some of those screener rips that float around are so poor in quality that it's not worth the bandwidth or the time to watch them.

These are not the films to watch a crap pirated version of if you are remotely a fan of film and appreciate the art form.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

So not only do you pirate movies, but you also use your phone in the theatre? I'm afraid the verdict is in on you, sir.

English my friend, makes me want to does not mean I do. As for pirating, arrrrrr.

[GGG]

The studios could solve this problem themselves. Release the films in wide release prior to sending out screeners.

They don't do this because they want to generate Oscar Buzz. SInce the media cycles have shortened this has pushed these releases from Christmas to weeks before the Oscars. So in exchange for generating Oscar buzz from nominations they risk putting out the screeners.

This is all on the studios and them trying to maximize the Oscar bump. Or the Oscars could fix it by saying you need wide release by x date instead of a few screens.

As for pirating the main concern is that pirating becomes mainstream. The techy people pirating doesn't matter its when in jumps over into everyone doing it like music did in the Napster days that it breaks business models. So the industry fights to make pirating difficult and morally wrong. Though it doesn't actually care about bad quality versions getting out.

[blueski]

Originally Posted by Kryzsky

Tarantino's films are so incredibly and beautifully filmed that I can't imagine watching them on anything but a theater screen or eventually a BluRay. Some of those screener rips that float around are so poor in quality that it's not worth the bandwidth or the time to watch them.

These are not the films to watch a crap pirated version of if you are remotely a fan of film and appreciate the art form.

Well you have to fly to Vancouver to see 8 in 70mm.

[SHOGUN]

Seen both. Was not disappointed as I was with Star Wars.

[Alberta_Beef]

I don't watch much in terms of movies anymore, television is so much better these days. When it comes to pirating whether it's wrong or not I won't pay for a movie unless I really want to see it, with the cost of seeing a flick in a cinema and being on a fixed income I just can't justify spending money on movies that I am not excited to see.