Colorado Avalanche’s Jarome Iginla among the veteran players still thriving...

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Yes.

Some people still thought he could get 50 goals at 30 despite the fact no NHL ever had

That's Iggy's fault how?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

The only time Matt Stajan ever scored as few as 5 goals in a season was in 2012-13, thanks to the lockout. His goal scoring over his NHL career, beginning with 2003-04:

14, lockout, 15, 10, 16, 15, 19, 6, 8, 5 (lockout), 14, 7.

He's no Iginla, and he's not even a 20-goal scorer, but let's not lie to make a point, shall we?

He was referring to Mitt Stajin.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

The only time Matt Stajan ever scored as few as 5 goals in a season was in 2012-13, thanks to the lockout. His goal scoring over his NHL career, beginning with 2003-04:

14, lockout, 15, 10, 16, 15, 19, 6, 8, 5 (lockout), 14, 7.

He's no Iginla, and he's not even a 20-goal scorer, but let's not lie to make a point, shall we?

And it's not really apples to apples is it, comparing a first/second liner to a third/fourth? I'd take Ovechkin's goals over Bollig's.

[t0rrent98]

[calgaryblood]

0 shutouts what a bum.

[GioforPM]

I was gonna say I preferred Stajan's FO% but then I looked it up and Iggy's pretty darn good (in his limited attempts).

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

The only time Matt Stajan ever scored as few as 5 goals in a season was in 2012-13, thanks to the lockout. His goal scoring over his NHL career, beginning with 2003-04:

14, lockout, 15, 10, 16, 15, 19, 6, 8, 5 (lockout), 14, 7.

He's no Iginla, and he's not even a 20-goal scorer, but let's not lie to make a point, shall we?

Well he is exactly on pace for 3-5 goals this year.
But only if he stays healthy

[Armchair Quarterback]

Man, CP is confusing sometimes. Came here for a thread on Iginla, find people Stajan-bashing. Hmm. Two for one deal I guess?

Glad to see Iggy is still gettin er done in Colorado. He is a smart player, and could easily play another couple of seasons. Maybe he'll even have a Jagr-esque career and play till he's 43. I would love to see him back in Calgary again but would he fit with this new team's identity?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

0 shutouts what a bum.

And for Boston no less.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Armchair Quarterback

Man, CP is confusing sometimes. Came here for a thread on Iginla, find people Stajan-bashing. Hmm. Two for one deal I guess?

Glad to see Iggy is still gettin er done in Colorado. He is a smart player, and could easily play another couple of seasons. Maybe he'll even have a Jagr-esque career and play till he's 43. I would love to see him back in Calgary again but would he fit with this new team's identity?

I believe what made Iggy relevant in the NHL post-2012/13 was his ability to change and adapt.

I'm sure he would fit on almost any team in the NHL, including Calgary.

[Armchair Quarterback]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I believe what made Iggy relevant in the NHL post-2012/13 was his ability to change and adapt.

I'm sure he would fit on almost any team in the NHL, including Calgary.

IIRC one of the biggest criticisms that CP had for him was that he wasn't skating, and was terrible on the backcheck. Seems like he's found a way to fix that, and on offense he really knows how to be in the right place at the right time.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I believe what made Iggy relevant in the NHL post-2012/13 was his ability to change and adapt.

I'm sure he would fit on almost any team in the NHL, including Calgary.

I would agree with you except for Calgary.

Iginla, through no fault of his own, became bigger than the team, bigger than the club and he became the singular focus. If we want to thank Feaster for any one thing it would have to be agreeing to be the fall-guy and getting rid of Iggy.

And I dont mean that in a negative sense. Iggy had to go, for his sake and for the team's sake. He became the team and organization's singular focus point and that wasnt fair for him or the team and moreover it was counter-productive.

Every loss was his fault and every win was because of him. We had to 'win a cup for Iggy.'

He has skill and his talent goes without question, but Iggy was one of those personalities that just couldnt take a back-bencher role.

The guy was bigger than life and we just couldnt move forward with him and if we brought him back it would be a circus that would put the Ringling brothers to shame.

Hell, imagine Theo Fleury in the pre-season times a thousand.

Its okay to like him as a man and as a player without him necessarily being a Calgary Flame. Dont get me wrong we all harbour the notion of picking Iggy up at the trade deadline one year while the team is rocking and rolling and wins a cup, but those are sports pipedreams that rarely coalesce into reality.

But thats hardly being a 'hater.' I like Iginla, and I wish him nothing but the best so long as the Flames do better.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Locke

I would agree with you except for Calgary.

Iginla, through no fault of his own, became bigger than the team, bigger than the club and he became the singular focus. If we want to thank Feaster for any one thing it would have to be agreeing to be the fall-guy and getting rid of Iggy.

And I dont mean that in a negative sense. Iggy had to go, for his sake and for the team's sake. He became the team and organization's singular focus point and that wasnt fair for him or the team and moreover it was counter-productive.

Every loss was his fault and every win was because of him. We had to 'win a cup for Iggy.'

He has skill and his talent goes without question, but Iggy was one of those personalities that just couldnt take a back-bencher role.

The guy was bigger than life and we just couldnt move forward with him and if we brought him back it would be a circus that would put the Ringling brothers to shame.

Hell, imagine Theo Fleury in the pre-season times a thousand.

Its okay to like him as a man and as a player without him necessarily being a Calgary Flame. Dont get me wrong we all harbour the notion of picking Iggy up at the trade deadline one year while the team is rocking and rolling and wins a cup, but those are sports pipedreams that rarely coalesce into reality.

But thats hardly being a 'hater.' I like Iginla, and I wish him nothing but the best so long as the Flames do better.

I agree with a lot of the items you are talking about and I think management is due some blame for this. I love Iggy but one of the issues the Flames faced in his last few years here was a lack of few young emerging quality players to assist and take over the "team" so to speak.

If hypothetically the Flames still had him along with our existing emerging players such Monahan, Johnny Hockey, Bennett and Brodie than the transition would have been easier.

Plenty of teams have had future Hall of Fame worthy players of Iginla's caliber and have been able to make the transition better while still maintaining that presence of the veteran. Injecting the youth whom the fanbase, the media and the team can get behind can help.

Just a few players that come to mind off the top of my head would be Steve Yzerman, Joe Sakic, Teemu Selanne etc.

Just my opinion.

[Iggy Snipe]

The guy is an absolute beauty. Will always be my favourite all time player. No one could get the dome louder, and everyone was alwayson the edge of their seats when he shot the puck.

I hope he finishes his career strong. I would love for him play for the Flames after his contract, he could easily be on the second line, and play PP minutes. The shot never really goes, its the skating and endurance thats goes first.

I know im dreaming, but who knows. 2 years worth 3.5 per? To get a guy who will get you 20+ goals?

[stemit14]

Would love to get iggy back... He fills so many needs for the flames right now and over the next couple years.

It's funny how someone mentioned in the game thread last night that Bennett reminded them of an early iginla. I almost agree... Bennett might be a little shiftier and not as strong as iggy at that age but the dominant way they could take over a shift is there.

I remember how iginla in his prime years was so dominant it was such a great thing to watch. The only comparable to me in the NHL right now would be Malkin when he is on his game. Iggy would crash through three guys in the corner to get the puck and once he had it... It was impossible to get it from him. Too strong, too skilled, and too quick. I cold see Bennett being that in a couple years.


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[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Yes.

Some people still thought he could get 50 goals at 30 despite the fact no NHL ever had

Read this and the first thing that popped in my head was Mario, he scored 69 goals (in 70 games) at 30 and 50 goals (in 76 games) at 31. Then he left for 3 years with cancer, came back and scored 35. Best player ever IMO.

[Gedman]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Yes.

Some people still thought he could get 50 goals at 30 despite the fact no NHL ever had

07-08 iggy was 30 and scored 50

[Jay Random]

Jaromir Jagr scored 54 goals in 2005-06, at age 34.

Then there was a guy who scored 51 goals in 1988-89, at age 32. Some of you might have heard of him: Joey Mullen.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Jaromir Jagr scored 54 goals in 2005-06, at age 34.

Then there was a guy who scored 51 goals in 1988-89, at age 32. Some of you might have heard of him: Joey Mullen.

Amazing that 51 goals was only good enough for T-5th in goal scoring and 34 goals behind the leader...times sure have changed.

Oh and on topic.... Oi Oi Oi!

[S. Yelle]

Wow, I'm very glad for Iggy, and not surprised he's still putting up the numbers. I hope he will, somehow, win a Stanley Cup at some point before he retires. Favorite player of all time.