I'm slightly offended at the brush home schoolers are being painted with, I have one kid in school and one at home, and both are doing well. I know several outstanding people who home school and I know lots of kids who have been successfully home schooled.
When you get rid of all the wasted time spent in a day at a public school, and have focus on only a few students rather than 30, plus have the ability to spend as much time as required to work through problems, it can be done much more efficiently. Some kids get lost in the system in a classroom setting.
Don't get me wrong though, I'm not anti public school system.
I don't discount homeschooling as all the things you mentioned are definitely advantages.
The problems tend to arise on the social end of the spectrum, not the intelligence end. If they don't get immersed with new people, in their own age group, and learn how to interact with them, how to make friends, what is/isn't OK in general society. Those things are either absent in homeschooling, or warped to the parents' experience. Not that the parents' experience is always bad, but it will almost always be outdated.
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It is, IMO, a discussion about scumbag parents that whored their family for money and covered up sex crimes..
Have you ever seen the show "Alaskan Bush People"?
There haven't been allegations yet of sexual misconduct among the siblings, and I'm shocked there hasn't been. 5 boys and 2 girls all living essentially in 1 room their entire lives. Ages 14 to 32 or something.
They also whore out the family for airtime and money.
Have you ever seen the show "Alaskan Bush People"?
There haven't been allegations yet of sexual misconduct among the siblings, and I'm shocked there hasn't been. 5 boys and 2 girls all living essentially in 1 room their entire lives. Ages 14 to 32 or something.
They also whore out the family for airtime and money.
Nope never watched or heard of the show.
However, I suspect if their approach is the same, my opinion will be the same.
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The problems tend to arise on the social end of the spectrum, not the intelligence end. If they don't get immersed with new people, in their own age group, and learn how to interact with them, how to make friends, what is/isn't OK in general society. Those things are either absent in homeschooling, or warped to the parents' experience. Not that the parents' experience is always bad, but it will almost always be outdated.
I was concerned abut that as well, but my son still has his freinds and they hang out all the time, interact on social media, xbox, just like everyone else. I don't know many home schooled kids who don't have freinds outside the home, and the school system is still available for sports should a kid want to participate.
I do believe in the deep south/evangelical end of things you have these issues, and while I am a church goer I am really leary of the extremism that is out there and its pitfalls.
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I was concerned abut that as well, but my son still has his freinds and they hang out all the time, interact on social media, xbox, just like everyone else. I don't know many home schooled kids who don't have freinds outside the home, and the school system is still available for sports should a kid want to participate.
I do believe in the deep south/evangelical end of things you have these issues, and while I am a church goer I am really leary of the extremism that is out there and its pitfalls.
Yeah fair enough, the social media aspect definitely helps bridge that gap. We had a kid on the team I coach a couple years ago that was home schooled and it didn't seem to cause much for issues other than being shy initially.
My experience with homeschooled people is largely from my own age group or older, who would have gone through it without those things. They are all really great people, but there is just something off about them socially. Nothing that would ever have me wanting to break ties as friends, usually they're just kind of funny quirks.
Back on topic though, if any people here are parents of home schooled kids, I would suggest some strongly worded notes sent to AHEA.
I don't see the issue with home schooling as far as socializing, unless your kids do zero extracircular activities, my kids are at activities multiple times a week where they interact with kids their own age. Plus of those programs that I am aware of, they have group things on a regular basis for certain 'classes'.
That said, you need to be a pretty dedicated parent who actually has the correct skillset to handle it, so I wouldn't consider it for most of my kids.
On topic at hand, I really didn't follow exactly what happened with the molestation thing short of a few memes on Reddit, so I will err on the side of these people likely did something very bad in covering up abuse, but given that abuse is cyclical in nature, it was likely something they learned from being abused themselves (the kid, and the parents). That doesn't excuse them from fault, just makes me not want to treat them as things that deserve to be removed from existence, especially since I doubt anyone but the family knows exactly what the situation is.
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I have in-laws that home school all 4 of their kids. They are totally anti-public school and anti-vaccine. They also seem convinced that their kids are going to be famous musicians and everything they do is to train them for that and they only do the bare minimum for academics.
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I have in-laws that home school all 4 of their kids. They are totally anti-public school and anti-vaccine. They also seem convinced that their kids are going to be famous musicians and everything they do is to train them for that and they only do the bare minimum for academics.
So famous muscians that will be around crowds, but don't vaccinate...
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Homeschooling is religious indoctrination of children.
Don't have kids myself, but your post is complete crap.
Also, if kids benefit so greatly from socialization during school, then why is the world filled with !@#holes who lack basic understanding of how to behave in public, don't respect social spaces and in general show a complete lack of respect for other people?
Important social skills develop many ways. Those who think school is the be all end all, are sadly mistaken.
I don't even know who these people are, which is probably a good thing, but there's no way they should be speaking at this event, or any other.
I envy you. And the CBC newsreader who pronounced it "doo-gers" when I first heard the story. Most of the rest of us have had way, way too much of the Duggars.
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My in-laws that homeschool their kids aren't religious at all. In fact, they hate organized religion.
I don't know the stats but I would wager a huge majority of those home schooled come from religious families.
My wife was home schooled and she really resents her family for it. She had to go back years later to get her GED just so she could have some options in life besides being a cashier.
My in-laws that homeschool their kids aren't religious at all. In fact, they hate organized religion.
Key word . You can object to organized religion and still believe in some principle of a higher being in the form of one all knowing god. I don't know your inlaws or your family as a whole but all the homeschooled people I do know they had some sort of "religous" upbringing . They told me tales about their lives where homeschooling was supposed to be a way of sheltering them from outside ideas the parents didn't share . They said ot was like being in a juevinale detention center with a day pass. They often only had playdates with other home schooled kids because the couldn't connect or meet other children that shared interests naturally.
From the stories I have heard I don't ever want to homeschool my kids.
I don't see the issue with home schooling as far as socializing, unless your kids do zero extracircular activities, my kids are at activities multiple times a week where they interact with kids their own age. Plus of those programs that I am aware of, they have group things on a regular basis for certain 'classes'.
That said, you need to be a pretty dedicated parent who actually has the correct skillset to handle it, so I wouldn't consider it for most of my kids.
On topic at hand, I really didn't follow exactly what happened with the molestation thing short of a few memes on Reddit, so I will err on the side of these people likely did something very bad in covering up abuse, but given that abuse is cyclical in nature, it was likely something they learned from being abused themselves (the kid, and the parents). That doesn't excuse them from fault, just makes me not want to treat them as things that deserve to be removed from existence, especially since I doubt anyone but the family knows exactly what the situation is.
He molested his sisters and his parents knowingly covered it ip as well as the police cheif knew about it but was close friends when his parnets did the same. As an adult used ashley madison to have affairs all while having a show on TLC to promote strong a rare form of Christianity called Quiverfall. A religion that gets its' name from pslam 127. This religion beleives god controls the womb and each child is a blessing and another arrow in God's fight against the evil in his holy war. A han must rule his castle and prepare for evils war that lay on his doorstep. It is like a radical offset of Mormonism.
The movement as a whole has always had sevre controversy linked molestation in young children within and oustside of the family unit. yes it is a 100% chance could be a because some one when they were covered up abuse .
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