10-16-2015, 04:35 PM
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#21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
That seems really stupid to me.
How can I support a government that doesn't even hold the most seats?
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Seats don't actually count for anything, the only thing that matters is can you get enough votes to pass legislation, particularly if it is a matter of confidence. Give Harper can't and Trudeau can then Trudeau will likely be given a chance to govern.
In practice, most people think the way you're thinking so unless seat counts are close it would be seen as undermining the people's will even though it's technically legal.
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10-16-2015, 05:34 PM
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#22
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edslunch
Seats don't actually count for anything, the only thing that matters is can you get enough votes to pass legislation, particularly if it is a matter of confidence. Give Harper can't and Trudeau can then Trudeau will likely be given a chance to govern.
In practice, most people think the way you're thinking so unless seat counts are close it would be seen as undermining the people's will even though it's technically legal.
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Except there is a convention of how it works.
Harper will, as incumbent PM, visit the Governor General after the results are in and advise the GG on what he should do. The GG is not bound to comply, but there is pretty wording under what circumstances the GG may choose to ignore that advice.
There are two things I think you can safely guarantee:
If the CPC does not have the most seats, Harper will advise the GG to recall Parliament and see if Trudeau has the confidence of the house.
If the CPC has the most seats Harper will advise the GG that he will test the confidence of the house.
I think the GG will follow either request.
It gets interesting when Harper is defeated, resigns, and asks the GG to call a new election. There the GG would likely not comply, and would ask Trudeau (with less seats) to test confidence.
The only reason the play worked with less seats back in the day was the King was acting PM. I doubt that would fly now anyway, but Harper would never try that play anyway.
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10-16-2015, 08:32 PM
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#23
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#1 Goaltender
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LIB 161 41%
CPC 112 29%
NDP 60 21%
Grn 2 5%
BLOC 2 3%
Ind 1 1%
Trudeau PM
Just short of Majority
The Greens take a second seat on Vancouver Island, inching closer to legitimacy.
I can't really follow all of the ridings, So I'm going crazy and saying an Independent wins one.
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10-17-2015, 12:44 AM
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#24
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: not lurking
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Not sure what my number predictions are going to be, but in terms of a sleeper, I think Olivia Chow loses her Spadina seat to the Liberals.
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10-17-2015, 05:13 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Popular vote
Liberals - 39.6%
Conservatives - 30.8%
NDP - 18.7%
Green - 4.8%
Bloc - 4.1%
Seat share
Liberals - 182
Conservatives - 93
NDP - 70
Green - 2
Bloc - 1
Minority or Majority - Lib majority
Next PM - Trudeau
Sleeper pick - Mulclair loses his seat.
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10-18-2015, 09:34 PM
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#26
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Like the provincial election, I'm going to alter my prediction the day before. It appears to me like the Liberal's campaign has the momentum of a runaway freight train. So I think majority now.
Liberal 39.8%
CPC 31.2%
NDP 18.1%
Green 4.4%
Bloc 4.3%
Liberal 177
CPC 105
NDP 53
Bloc 2
Green 1
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10-18-2015, 10:09 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Richmond, BC
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Liberal 40.4
Conservative 29.6
NDP 19.8
Bloc 5.8
Green 4.4
Liberal 175
Conservative 103
NDP 48
Bloc 10
Green 2
I expect a Liberal majority, and a decent showing for the Bloc.
I also expect my riding (Victoria) to be very very close, but end up giving the Greens another seat.
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10-18-2015, 10:23 PM
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#28
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Popular vote
Liberal 39.2%
Conservative 33.8%
NDP 18.0%
BQ 5.5%
Green 2.7%
Other 0.8%
Seat share
Liberal 155
Conservative 125
NDP 51
Bloc 7
Green 0
Minority or Majority Minority
Next PM Trudeau (I can't see Mulcair forming a pact with Harper, but never say never)
Sleeper pick Elizabeth May defeated in Saanich-Gulf Islands as Liberals gobble up all current Green seats
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10-18-2015, 10:35 PM
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Looooooooooooooch
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Popular vote
Liberals - 42%
Conservatives - 30%
NDP - 20%
Green - 4%
Bloc - 4%
Seat share
Liberals - 182
Conservatives - 99
NDP - 57
Green - 1
Bloc - 1
Minority or Majority - Liberal Majority
Next PM - Trudeau
Sleeper pick - Matt Grant, Calgary Confederation
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10-18-2015, 10:51 PM
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#30
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Over the hill
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I'm going with a Liberal Minority.
LPC: 149
CPC: 121
NDP: 58
Bloc: 8
Green: 2
Vote share:
LPC: 39%
CPC: 32%
NDP: 21%
Green: 4%
Bloc: 4%
PM: Trudeau
sleeper pick:
Liberals win Calgary Skyview
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10-19-2015, 08:20 AM
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#31
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Lib wins most seats and a crazy debate over who is PM ensues.
LPC: 135
CPC: 130
NDP: 64
Bloc: 8
Green: 1
Vote share:
LPC: 37%
CPC: 34%
NDP: 21%
Green: 4%
Bloc: 5%
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10-19-2015, 08:35 AM
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#32
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Calgary in Heart, Ottawa in Body
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Popular vote
Liberal 39%
Conservative 32%
NDP 20%
BQ 4%
Green 4%
Other 1%
Seat share
Liberal 175
Conservative 90
NDP 69
Bloc 2
Green 2
Majority Liberals
Next PM JT
Sleeper pick I think Calgary Forrest Lawn goes Liberal Red (as well as Confederation, Skyview and Centre). Calgary-Midnapore (Kenny's riding, ends up being mmmmmmuch closer than anyone expected -40%)
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10-19-2015, 08:36 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Liberal majority. NDP get creamed and lose many of the seats they had last election.
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10-19-2015, 09:27 AM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Popular vote:
LIB 42%
CPC 31%
NDP 19%
BQ 4%
GRN 3%
OTH 1%
Seat share:
LIB - 165
CPC - 105
NDP - 62
GRN - 3
BQ - 3
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10-19-2015, 09:39 AM
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#35
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Liberal (Minority)
NDP
CPC
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10-19-2015, 09:41 AM
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First Line Centre
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Popular vote: Liberals
LIB 37.6%
CPC 33.3%
NDP 18.8%
BQ 5.0%
GRN 4.6%
OTH 0.7%
Seat share:
LIB - 157
CPC - 101
NDP - 74
BQ - 4
GRN - 2
Minority or Majority:
Liberal minority
Next PM:
Justin Trudeau
Sleeper pick:
Liberals sweep all seats but one in all of the territories and maritime provinces except for New Brunswick. That one seat will be one NDP seat in either NFLD or NS.
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10-19-2015, 09:43 AM
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#37
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Conservative or Liberal Minority Govt...
They bicker like school children and we are doing this all again within a year...
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10-19-2015, 09:58 AM
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#38
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Popular Vote:
Liberals: 40.3%
Conservatives: 29.4%
NDP: 19.7%
Green: 4.8%
BQ: 5.2%
OTH: 0.6%
Seats:
Liberals: 176
Conservatives: 103
NDP: 55
Green: 2
Independent:1
BQ: 0
PM: Justin
Sleeper pick(s): Liberals win 3 in Calgary (Centre, Confederation and Skyview), NDP wins Lethbridge and BQ gets shutout. Greens pickup another seat.
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10-19-2015, 10:12 AM
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First Line Centre
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Popular Vote:
LPC: 38.3%
CPC: 32.1%
NDP: 19.7%
BQ: 5.2%
GPC: 4.0%
OTH: 0.7%
Seats:
LPC: 153
CPC: 121
NDP: 57
BQ: 5
GPC: 1
OTH: 1
PM: Justin
Sleeper pick: Harper makes an ill-fated last ditch effort to hang on to power and form government despite not winning a plurality of seats.
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10-19-2015, 10:22 AM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Popular vote: LIB 35.3%, CPC 31.9%, NDP 22.8%, GRN 5.1%, BLQ 4.9%.
Seat share: LIB 131, CPC 126, NDP 73, BLQ 6, GRN 2
Minority/Majority: Minority
Next PM: Justin Trudeau
Sleeper: Victoria won by Green Party
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