[News] Oilers waive Scrivens

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Mark Spector @SportsnetSpec
. @generalfanager Don't forget the $3.25 for a No. 7 Dman in Ference. That's $10M in salary, $8.15M in cap space on 3 players not playing.

MacT has to have pictures of Katz doing something illegal. I just don't see how he is still collecting a pay cheque? lol

[keratosis]

I'm going to miss the Klown show.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by codynw

Just like Dubnyk, Scrivens was never the problem. Talbot will probably be on waivers next year too

Maybe he wasn't the problem, but he wasn't the solution either. He is a fringe NHLer at best.

I think it's possible a team claims him. Maybe a team like San Jose will give him a shot instead of giving up an asset for a goalie.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

So thats 6.8 million dollars of Katz's money that Lowe spent in the minors....and they didn't fire him?

FYP. Lowe did this with Souray too, when Souray complained about the Oilers medical staff not properly treating him and the front office ignoring him after pushing him to come back early from his injury.

It was pretty clear throughout the last tenure that Lowe pulled all the strings, he just needed a patsy fall guy to do the day to day talking as a mouth piece, and do the dirty work like embarrassingly stand on the bench beside Nelson for a half dozen games.

The fact that I don't think Lowe has spoken publicly since getting demoted in June is almost beyond belief. No matter how tight the muzzle (ie "keep quiet and we'll continue to pay you"), Lowe's ego is far too big to be able to just stand back and see the keys taken away from him suddenly for a team he had under his finger for over a decade; I'm sure in his mind he's taking full credit for any incremental success this year.

I think PC and maybe Katz has realized the subservient role MacT played the last couple years, and they feel a slight bit sorry for him (never mind he's still under contract), and they'd rather have him as the "link" to the "old" team, than want to bring Lowe and his toxic opinion back into the mix in the offices/behind the scenes.

[pseudoreality]

Nilsson didn't let in a goal in preseason. Tough to send him down. I'm going to say there is probably a 25% chance Scrivens gets claimed. He's proven to be a serviceable back-up when playing behind an NHL caliber defense. The problem is he makes too much for a back-up.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Was out played by the other 2 goalies.

Honest question. Scrivens has better numbers at every level outside 120 preseason minutes. Is that enough?

[Enoch Root]

So the Oilers are going to go with a tandem of Talbot and Nilsson.

So you trade for Talbot, okay. Young guy with good stats, payed his dues in the AHL. Only 57 NHL games, but no problem there. Has earned his chance.

Here's the problem: you go with a backup that has only played 23 NHL games. A guy that couldn't crack the Islanders lineup - the team with the worst goaltending in the history of the NHL - and who thus ran off to the KHL last year.

This just epitomizes the Oilers organization. Neither Talbot nor Nilsson is a bad decision on their own, but going with both of them is practically begging for disaster.

Where's the leadership? Where's the mentoring? Where's the strategy of putting your players in a position to succeed?

Nope. The greatest path to success is through failure.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by keratosis

I'm going to miss the Klown show.

Same show, they've just added new members to the Klown Kar.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Honest question. Scrivens has better numbers at every level outside 120 preseason minutes. Is that enough?

Exactly.

Nilsson should be getting minutes in the A, with Scrivens providing veteran backup for Talbot.

Nope. Treat your players like crap and give the job to a new guy that played well in a couple of pre-season games.

[trackercowe]

Yeesh, I thought for sure they would keep Scrivens around just as a layer of security in case Talbot isn't ready for a spot at the starter. So instead of throwing in Tablot into the wolves it would have been more of a 1A/1B situation like in Calgary.

Now they're going to try and start Talbot in 60-65 games this year, for a guy who's only been in the league two years and only came in for relief duty last year when Lundqvist was hurt. Granted he looked good, but that was in front of a stacked defensive core, and often goalies that look good in relief never pan out... just like Scrivens covering for Quick's injury woes a few years ago. I honestly foresee the same thing happening once again.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

The Oilers are 2nd to none when it comes to setting themselves up for failure.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

The Oilers are 2nd to none when it comes to setting themselves up for failure.

Make no mistake, like his predecessors, Talbot will be given full opportunity to crash and burn this season. It's the Oiler way.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Honest question. Scrivens has better numbers at every level outside 120 preseason minutes. Is that enough?

I have to imagine Boston was aggressively scouting guys like Talbot, Reinhart, Nilsson, and Laurikainen when Chiarelli was there, so maybe it is along with his KHL numbers. For reference, Ramo in his best KHL year was a .929 in 40 games and Nilsson`s coming off a 0.936 over 38.

Sometimes it`s more than numbers, it`s what you see on the ice too. Maybe Nilsson`s shown strong fundamentals, which would be an automatic improvement over floppy scrivens. And there`s the fact that Nilsson is 6`5`` and can stop some shots just by being tall. An over-the-shoulder snipe like that Chiarot goal yesterday probably doesn`t even go in on a worse, but bigger goaltender. That's why a lot of us are excited about McDonald and Gillies, no?

I think the Oilers made the right move waiving Scrivens. Talbot is their starter (and the guy along with Dubnyk I was hoping we picked up in the offseason before they did =/ ) and Nilsson their backup. If Nilsson or Talbot fail, well, it's not like Scrivens would have succeeded anyways - they've already been down that road.

And if Nilsson's just atrocious, Scrivens is still a good third stringer they can call up.

[savardandjokinen]

Nilsson is talented; just like every European...

[schteve_d]

Hopefully he gets picked up and gets Vezina consideration next season.

[Robo]

oilers destroy another goalie career...hope he gets back on his feet playing in front of a real team again not that gong show what a pathetic bunch of players... oh well next up Talbot

[Vinny01]

Could the Oulers and Flames be trade partners with Edmonton having interest in Hillernor Ramo?

[sharkov]

Scrivens for vezina 2016!

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

And there`s the fact that Nilsson is 6`5`` and can stop some shots just by being tall.

Worked wonders for Henrik Karlsson

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Honest question. Scrivens has better numbers at every level outside 120 preseason minutes. Is that enough?

Fair. But what's the point in having a compition in camp if you won't send down the worst player?