Is this even legal? Disabled man denied housing subsidy.... because he's not Muslim.

[blueski]

Originally Posted by pylon

LOL, he won't.

He and anyone that pursued it, would just be labelled as a racist if they tried.

If this happened in Alberta, the Alberta Human Rights Commission would hear his complaint and investigate and arbitrate a settlement if it was warranted.

[longsuffering]

A good friend of my wife is in involved in the Calgary Jewish Centre and she says that the Jewish Centre administers programs, some funded by the City and Province, that are only available to Jewish people.

As Swarez mentioned, this is not that unusual. It's because this program happens to be offered only to Muslims that people are jumping on the "it's racist" bandwagon.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

A good friend of my wife is in involved in the Calgary Jewish Centre and she says that the Jewish Centre administers programs, some funded by the City and Province, that are only available to Jewish people.

As Swarez mentioned, this is not that unusual. It's because this program happens to be offered only to Muslims that people are jumping on the "it's racist" bandwagon.

There is a massive difference between summer camp at the Jewish Centre and actually having a place to live. There is a 90k person wait list in TO for affordable housing and this guy got punted because he's not the right religion. And what an utterly stupid concept...mandated segregation. It's not racism it's just stupid.

Maybe they should give him Jack and Lilly's old place.

[Swarez]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

There is a massive difference between summer camp at the Jewish Centre and actually having a place to live. There is a 90k person wait list in TO for affordable housing and this guy got punted because he's not the right religion. And what an utterly stupid concept...mandated segregation. It's not racism it's just stupid.

Maybe they should give him Jack and Lilly's old place.

than shouldn't the government build more affordable housing?? my wife said there are about 20 of these in Toronto, would never be built if communities couldn't pick who they wanted. Is it better to have 20 less co-op houses built/run by private sector with a longer wait list, or wait for government to build more?

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by GGG

A few clarifications to pylons post:

It's the city of Toronto that has endorsed this practice, and he is not being discriminated against because he is disabled. It's because he isn't Muslim.

It's crazy that Toronto city council allows publicly subsidized housing to be ethic or religiously discriminatory if certain conditions are met. This is terrible public policy even if you ignore the discriminatory nature of it.

It's sounds like Toronto has quite a few of theses housing arrangements across a variety of religions and ethnic groups.

While the rule obviously needs to be reworked at best and thrown out at worst, it's important to remember rules like this (basically a kind of affirmative action rule) come into existance because of a prior prejudice against the groups the rule protects.

The law is obviously not working though, I do agree.

[Swarez]

Originally Posted by Daradon

While the rule obviously needs to be reworked at best and thrown out at worst, it's important to remember rules like this (basically a kind of affirmative action rule) come into existance because of a prior prejudice against the groups the rule protects.

The law is obviously not working though, I do agree.

This is not public housing. This is a co-op, which offers part of the bilding under market rates for people who qualify, and the city has allowed many of these co-ops to allow to select people in their own communities.

-city is starved for public funding and the alternative is to raise taxes and build morepunlic housing because like this would just revert back to market rates if they couldn't pick and choose. Toronto had something like 40 year wait for public housing and needed to get creative to shorten list and this was one of them.
- city is also off the hook for planning, construction and maintence in buildings like this, if you look at torontos public houses which all need to be repaired but have no funds and are run horribly putting more people in that system would create more chaos.

In Toronto you have the private (not for profit), provincial, federal and local government offering subsidized housing with only growth coming from private sector - which asked for caveats - which they got. Again other option is raise taxes build more - which no one will vote for.

[Daradon]

Well laws govern all housing though. Your own property is governed by laws that say what you can or cannot do with it. I'm not sure I understand your point.

Propery owners do have rights for screening new applicants or buyers. That's pretty basic. But it's always within reason. There are still certain things you cannot do. Or should not do. Conflicts like this do happen.

[wontondestruction]

Originally Posted by pylon

This is absolutely infuriating. We view this country as a melting pot, and welcome pretty much anyone, from anywhere in the world of any beliefs or religion.
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I think you mean cultural mosaic, which is a mix of different cultures in society. Melting pot, is what they do in the US, which is more assimilation.

I get what you're saying, I just wanted to make the distinction.

[T@T]

Is there a Canadian version of Donald Trump available for the election?

[bizaro86]

This is interesting to me, from the perspective of someone who has rental properties.

I'm pretty sure any private landlord who had a "will only rent to those of xyz race/religion" would be in all sorts of trouble. Interesting that its allowed when there is a gov't subsidy attached.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

This is interesting to me, from the perspective of someone who has rental properties.

I'm pretty sure any private landlord who had a "will only rent to those of xyz race/religion" would be in all sorts of trouble. Interesting that its allowed when there is a gov't subsidy attached.

I guess it's time to start building athiest buildings. No religion allowed.