Cap structure - Shifting the money up the Lineup.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Patrick Sharp as a 32 year old had 78 pts and was on Canada's Olympic team. He was a better player for a longer time than Hudler. 5.9 Was too much for the Hawks to keep him.

Patrick Marleau as a 34 year old had 70 pts and was on Canada's Olympic team... Last year 56 pts. Having him for 6.6 M really lessens the Sharks chances for the next 2 years.

The Sedins were extended as 31 year olds coming off a almost a Hudler like ppg season in 2012-13 to a 4 year deal @7M last season at age 32.... basically making Vancouver a non-contender until 2018-19.

If Hudler has a great season this year then he might be get 6M for 1 or 2 years. If he tails off to his career average 55 season he would be hard pressed to get his current 4 x 4 .

The Flames management have to be expecting Frolik to take his spot with 50-60 pts and were not able to extend Hudler for 3 years at less than 5.

Signing a 32 year old to a big long term contract is not a risk the Flames need to take.

If Hudler has a great season he is getting more than 1-2 year term on $6 million. He will get a 5 year term from some team and i don't think the flames can give it to him. Also hard pressed to get $4 million if he goes back to 55 point season? If he goes back to 55 point season he will get $5 million easy.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Frolik is bigger but does not play a physical game.

Hudler/Wideman/Russell/Jones will not be traded for picks unless things go incredibly wrong. In that case they will not be bringing back a 1st round pick.

The window for the Flames to have a long playoff run is right now....

I don't think a long playoff run starts this year. Still need a true #1 ( Ortio might be the guy) , need to get bigger, and probably need another top 6 forward.

Out of the 4 players you posted that would not get traded i would say at least one is traded at deadline. I think Jones is all but gone by deadline. Hudler and Russell are the wild cards. If neither are signed by deadline i have to think the flames trade at least one of them away. As for Wideman i think this will be his last full year as a flame. I could see them trading him away in the summer or deadline of 2017.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

If Hudler has a great season he is getting more than 1-2 year term on $6 million. He will get a 5 year term from some team and i don't think the flames can give it to him. Also hard pressed to get $4 million if he goes back to 55 point season? If he goes back to 55 point season he will get $5 million easy.

Hope it would not be on the Flames.


How fast did the wheels fall off the Glencross money train?

Wiess a consistent 55-60pt center just got bought out of a 4.9M 5 year deal signed as a 30 year old in 2013. Hudler and Wiess have very similar career number and Wiess is 1 year older

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Your top 3 D probably make about 20M a year. 8 for a #1, 6.5 for a #2, for a 5.5 for a #3

3) Getting Gio down to 7M or less will be huge. It will mean we'll have about 2.5M in flexibility going forward from the assumed 20M a year above.

Like I was saying.