Mentally ill B.C. man who killed his three children granted escorted outings

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Dion

Fear and ignorance are the greatest barriers to discovering the truth.

Should we do away with mental health treatment and those involved for the vengence you seek?

I don't think that's it. It's not about treatment, it's about guilty or not guilty.
The defense brings experts that said he was suffering from mental illness, the prosecution presents mental health experts that say the opposite.
A judge alone or a jury of citizens then decide if the individual is/was mentally ill.
Yes I know it's our system. One just hopes it gets it right.
I'm not sure they did this time.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by T@T

No we should be more careful on who gets off with murder claiming mental health problems. I have a friend who knows this guy. he called him a jealous meathead idiot and couldn't believe he claimed what he did and got away with it.

Consider this study

Insanity defence hardly a handy way to escape justice: study

The notion that cold-blooded killers and violent offenders are taking advantage of a soft-on-crime justice system by feigning psychiatric illness to win a verdict of not criminally responsible and avoid punishment is a myth, a new study finds.

For one thing, the study published Thursday by the Canadian Journal of Psychiatry concludes, only a tiny fraction — less than 0.2 per cent of criminal cases in a given year — will receive a verdict of not criminally responsible on account of mental disorder, which used to be known as not guilty by reason of insanity.

"(Such) cases can conjure thoughts of violent offenders faking a mental illness to avoid prison time, shortened hospital stays with early release into the community accompanied by fears the individual will reoffend," the article states.

However, data from the national trajectory project, which tracked 1,800 not-criminally responsible men and women from May 2000 to April 2005 in Quebec, Ontario, and British Columbia, paints a much different picture.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/insa...tudy-1.3001947

[Dion]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

I don't think that's it. It's not about treatment, it's about guilty or not guilty.
The defense brings experts that said he was suffering from mental illness, the prosecution presents mental health experts that say the opposite.
A judge alone or a jury of citizens then decide if the individual is/was mentally ill.
Yes I know it's our system. One just hopes it gets it right.
I'm not sure they did this time.

I'm surprised the judge didn't ask for an independant psych evaluation given the two conflicting examinations.

[afc wimbledon]

I'm with t@t on this one, I don't think for a moment the pric was delusional, he wanted to hurt his wife for leaving him, he then ran away after the crime and hid. He knew full well what he did was wrong.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by pylon

The victims wishes 100% should come first in a scenario like this.

There is no justice system in the world that works like that. Even medieval justice typically involved a pre-defined exchange of cattle or gold as a blood price. You would have to go back to the most primitive tribes to find anything like a code of justice where punishment was determined by the victim.

Justice is blind, dispassionate, and dispensed by the state in every civilized society in the world. And that state of affairs came about after centuries of experience with revenge-based 'justice', and it's terrible legacy of endless blood-feuds.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

There is no justice system in the world that works like that. Even medieval justice typically involved a pre-defined exchange of cattle or gold as a blood price. You would have to go back to the most primitive tribes to find anything like a code of justice where punishment was determined by the victim.

Justice is blind, dispassionate, and dispensed by the state in every civilized society in the world. And that state of affairs came about after centuries of experience with revenge-based 'justice', and it's terrible legacy of endless blood-feuds.

Yeah, but would you feel that way if it were YOUR family? Huh? Would you?

[rubecube]

Sorry, I think I'm still drunk from yesterday.

[Russic]

Dion is correct imo – many tend to believe that our court system works like Law & Order where anybody can murder all they want and then say they hear voices and get off. In reality, the tests required to prove such a defence are stringent enough that they're likely get more incorrect the other way.