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Old 05-25-2015, 11:23 PM   #21
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A one second Google search would demonstrate how far from the truth that is.

http://www.charityintelligence.ca/ch...humane-society
Well that's why I asked.

SPCA is the same thing as the Humane Society? A name change somewhere along the line I guess.
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Old 05-26-2015, 07:30 AM   #22
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I think the worst ones are the rides and weekends. They meet all legal requirements but the ride to conquer cancer only gets about 50% of the dollars to research. So if you donate to riders you are really paying half for their fully supported bike ride and half to cancer.

Cant find the source anymore though with a quick google.
I do the ride every year, and from what I know of it, the sponsors pay ALL costs related to the ride. None of the fundraising goes to supporting the ride. I was actually curious how peopel feel about that one as I have to do quite a bit of fundraising.

Just checked the website, it seams that section is incomplete....
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How much money raised by The Enbridge® Ride to Conquer Cancer® goes to the cause?

All donations go immediately to the . Proceeds from the event stay in our province and will deliver breakthrough research, screening programs, exemplary teaching, and compassionate care at the .
I have sent them an email, I'll let you know what they say.

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Old 05-26-2015, 08:00 AM   #23
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http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/s...NCERFOUNDATION


Here is the 3010 report from the federal government. You could make the arguement that they have that all personal donations go to Cancer research and corporate sponsorship pays for the event but to me that isn't really being genuine as those corporate dollars are being sought after by many charities.

Compare to the united way which returns 90% of revenue to other charities.
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:05 AM   #24
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[url]Compare to the united way which returns 90% of revenue to other charities.
That doesn't seem like an appropriate comparison.
What's the actual return on the dollars to the United Way?
ie; Those charities will have overheads of their own.
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:12 AM   #25
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That doesn't seem like an appropriate comparison.
What's the actual return on the dollars to the United Way?
ie; Those charities will have overheads of their own.
The Alberta cancer foundation is purely a fundraising company so I think the comparison is valid.

In fact the united way spends 17% on direct charity programs whereas the Alberta cancer foundation spends 7%

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/s...CALGARYANDAREA
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Old 05-26-2015, 10:39 AM   #26
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Here is the reply from the Conquer Cancer Ride.
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So it sounds like 30% goes to funding the ride. Some interesting things to keep in mind in that there are spin-off benefits to spending more, as I marked in bold that bring in more money that probably don't show up in the CRA data. I always suspect when we see these articles about how much goes to overhead that some charities can do more by spending more, as the old adage goes, and its not just about wasting money.
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Should charities pay competitive wages to their executives and staff to run the charities? They're still competing with for profit companies for executives and staff. It's kind of a catch 22. Pay them competitively, and you get non profit executives making similar to for profit executives, and the donating public getting mad. Pay them less, and you get second rate executives and risk the charity not run as well as it could be.
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Should charities pay competitive wages to their executives and staff to run the charities? They're still competing with for profit companies for executives and staff. It's kind of a catch 22. Pay them competitively, and you get non profit executives making similar to for profit executives, and the donating public getting mad. Pay them less, and you get second rate executives and risk the charity not run as well as it could be.
Yeah, your searching for a happy medium for sure. I think we're a lot of people get mad is when the upper executives get a bunch of perks and CEO type salaries.
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