Blues Acquire Marc Staal

[Knut]

I can also take on the contract and offer greater value.

He should have really shopped him around more.

Now Make like your name and DropIT!

[Hockey]

Alright, let's see what you guys got. Already have a good offer for him, now let's see if anyone can up that.

[3thirty]

Originally Posted by Hockey

Alright, let's see what you guys got. Already have a good offer for him, now let's see if anyone can up that.

Step 1) accept trade that will get vetoed and get gm to post
Step 2) create discussion about said player getting called elite
Step 3) create bidding war in market
Step 4) PROFIT

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Hesla

I can also take on the contract and offer greater value.

He should have really shopped him around more.

Now Make like your name and DropIT!

Well I guess you can, while I did.

And as someone openly against the idea of having trades go through a review process, I dont see anything wrong with gauging values and getting an idea of what is/is not to be accepted by a jury of peers.

[Hanna Sniper]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Well I guess you can, while I did.

And as someone openly against the idea of having trades go through a review process, I dont see anything wrong with gauging values and getting an idea of what is/is not to be accepted by a jury of peers.

This is crazy talk, common the handcuffs are only on new GM for a very very short period dont make it out like there a long list and every trade in the CPHL goes through this process

It's done for a reason, because the league has a history of feasting of the fresh fish. Every time a new GM was added a trade couldn't happen because all the GM were circling the new guy like a pack of wolves

It's a process to protect the new guys from making a mistake that they "might" regret... because almost every GM in the league regrets their first couple trades because with hindsight.. yes some good trades get blocked but you know what... they handcuffs are on the GM for a very short period, not even a couple weeks< make the trade then when there is no review process

Protect the new guy for a couple weeks from mistake ,a mistake they might regret is such a horrible thing that we have to be openly against the whole process... because a deal can't wait two weeks just in case a GM might catchup wit the rules

I've been on both sides of the ruling, and although I always like the deal, I understand the reasoning for it. Anti up or sit on your hands a couple weeks and hope the GM doesn't move him elsewhere and still interested in the deal

[Hockey]

Hey guys, I have gotten all your offers and I am pretty sure I know which one I am going to take. Will hopefully come to a decision tonight.

[Drury18]

Are you discussing it with any GM's who aren't bidding to get other opinions?

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper

This is crazy talk, common the handcuffs are only on new GM for a very very short period dont make it out like there a long list and every trade in the CPHL goes through this process

It's done for a reason, because the league has a history of feasting of the fresh fish. Every time a new GM was added a trade couldn't happen because all the GM were circling the new guy like a pack of wolves

It's a process to protect the new guys from making a mistake that they "might" regret... because almost every GM in the league regrets their first couple trades because with hindsight.. yes some good trades get blocked but you know what... they handcuffs are on the GM for a very short period, not even a couple weeks< make the trade then when there is no review process

Protect the new guy for a couple weeks from mistake ,a mistake they might regret is such a horrible thing that we have to be openly against the whole process... because a deal can't wait two weeks just in case a GM might catchup wit the rules

I've been on both sides of the ruling, and although I always like the deal, I understand the reasoning for it. Anti up or sit on your hands a couple weeks and hope the GM doesn't move him elsewhere and still interested in the deal

My stance is there should be more room for mistakes to be made. trying to force trades that other people tend to deem as being fair kind of sucks regardless of how long.

Also, every gm here knows that not every trade is subject to this process and there is a breaking in system, so it should be painfully obvious that Im not implying the league is set under these rules all the time.

This isn't a direct reference to this trade either, i really dobt mind it being rejected. Its happened before and will happen again, the leash is just too short for my liking is all. I can understand why the rule is there.

Either way, im past discussing it.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by DropIt

My stance is there should be more room for mistakes to be made. trying to force trades that other people tend to deem as being fair kind of sucks regardless of how long.

That`s how things used to be and everytime a new GM was hired there was a long line to take advantage of them.

Originally Posted by DropIt

Also, every gm here knows that not every trade is subject to this process and there is a breaking in system, so it should be painfully obvious that Im not implying the league is set under these rules all the time.

Incorrect. Every trade a new GM IS subject to these rules. We do the same thing every time. The trade is posted in the commissioner forum and we discussed, and if necessary, vote on whether or not it should be rejected or accepted. We do this until a new GM has proven themselves.

[Hanna Sniper]

(response to Dropit)

I can respect that


I have similar views about the weekly awards system it can indeed be frustrating at times but I readily don't think it's intentional

[fundamentals]

Obviously I'm new here and don't have a full grasp of how everything works but I can't imagine any scenario where this is a good deal, and I for one am thankful that the league doesn't allow new GM's to make any deals they want. As has been made clear to me by almost every GM I've spoken to, player values in this league are much different from "real" NHL and I think until people fully understand that they should be prevented from making mistakes that will hurt their teams (and thus the league) until they have a better grasp on what's what.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by DropIt

My stance is there should be more room for mistakes to be made. trying to force trades that other people tend to deem as being fair kind of sucks regardless of how long.

Also, every gm here knows that not every trade is subject to this process and there is a breaking in system, so it should be painfully obvious that Im not implying the league is set under these rules all the time.

This isn't a direct reference to this trade either, i really dobt mind it being rejected. Its happened before and will happen again, the leash is just too short for my liking is all. I can understand why the rule is there.

Either way, im past discussing it.

I know you're past discussing it, but there is plenty of room for mistakes after the review period. Look no further than my franchise! I've made plenty of terrible deals and one or two decent ones over my tenure. I remember what it was like being a brand-new GM though and there were certainly a couple guys (no longer in the league) who couldn't wait for me to be able to trade because my thoughts on the value of players and assets was not in line with the league. Its really better for everyone if that kind of thing doesn't happen.

I would also note that I made a trade very early on that was a little bit questionable and rather than an outright decline, I was approached by one of the commissioners who just said "do you realise this and this?" and made sure I knew some of the finer points before approving the trade. That was great because it not only covered that particular deal off, but made me look at those points for deals down the road.

Anyway, don't worry. This deal might not have worked, but your trading partner is a Canucks fan, and once he's off the leash we'll be able to send him things like Baertschi for a 2nd rounder and the league won't step in to protect him from himself!